Negesa (2nd place and Adidas runner) ran Dubai in Nike Vaporfly Flyknits dyed red to (poorly) mask the Nike Logo

Snarkatine Sid wrote:

energy boosted wrote:

How is this possible, I thought the Adidas boost midsoles literally stored energy in those TPU balls to fire it back into each running stride when the foot left the ground. The Adidas advert had those ball bearings bouncing off the boost foam multiple times to show the energy return compared with other midsoles. Surely that would work better than a carbon plate?!

I guess I was more suckered by the Adidas marketing campaign...

I've tried both. The difference in amazing ! The adidas shoe is soft, but it feels like the return is lost in (no better word for it) misdirection. The Nike shoe is laser focused on forward return. I've only done training runs in them to test, but the Nike shoe is close to 30secs per mile faster.

If you fall from a height on to a pile of cushions your fall will literally be cushioned. If you fall from the same height on to a trampoline you will literally be bounced back up into the air.

It's not rocket science... Or is it?!!

immunorunner wrote:

I'm not so sure that the shoes were the major factor in his ability to suddenly drop 6 minutes from his marathon PR. It looks like he has been training at a high level for years. He has run 2:10 on three different occasions from 2013 to 2016 before improving to a 2:09 last year...then a 2:03.

Almost as if his performance was suddenly and recently "enhanced".

Look, it has been proven that all it takes when stuck in a rut like that is a push-up program, a non functional doorbell, and a few visits to uncle Jama in sabadell.

An amazingly stupid think to do, unless he thought it was worth the risk because Dubai prize money would potentially be worth more than the Adidas sponsor money.

Of course, it could also be because he's thick and thought other people are also thick and wouldn't notice, but he's too thick to realize he's thick and therefore unable to realize others aren't so thick.

Gotta say he did a shït job in trying to cover up the Nike logo.

The OP is a troll.

There's no evidence of what was alleged.

Calling BS` wrote:

The OP is a troll.

There's no evidence of what was alleged.

One question. Do you work for competing shoe company? If you do, could you focus on making a competing product for every runner. I'm tired of paying $250 for these shoes. Let's get some competition out there.

It's obvious his shoes were disguised in some way or another. Look at the replay.

Calling BS` wrote:

The OP is a troll.

There's no evidence of what was alleged.

Read this. Who's the troll? Look at the video. It's obvious something fishy going on with those shoes. Negasa only has an issue with his sponsor. It's not like he violated rule 143 like some runners did in Sacramento this year. He wore a current shoe available to everyone, not a prototype.

There’s a whole IG page dedicated to this with closeups if the 4%’s painted over.

Snarkatine Sid wrote:

energy boosted wrote:

How is this possible, I thought the Adidas boost midsoles literally stored energy in those TPU balls to fire it back into each running stride when the foot left the ground. The Adidas advert had those ball bearings bouncing off the boost foam multiple times to show the energy return compared with other midsoles. Surely that would work better than a carbon plate?!

I guess I was more suckered by the Adidas marketing campaign...

I've tried both. The difference in amazing ! The adidas shoe is soft, but it feels like the return is lost in (no better word for it) misdirection. The Nike shoe is laser focused on forward return. I've only done training runs in them to test, but the Nike shoe is close to 30secs per mile faster.

I agreed with everything you said til the 30 second comment. A shoe is a shoe doesn’t have magical super powers.

The thick and the thin of it. wrote:

An amazingly stupid think to do, unless he thought it was worth the risk because Dubai prize money would potentially be worth more than the Adidas sponsor money.

Of course, it could also be because he's thick and thought other people are also thick and wouldn't notice, but he's too thick to realize he's thick and therefore unable to realize others aren't so thick.

Gotta say he did a shït job in trying to cover up the Nike logo.

Totally agree. Adidas's gonna eat this guy for lunch now. He'd better keep running fast to pay for that breach of contract...

Ihateletsrunnerds wrote:

I agreed with everything you said til the 30 second comment. A shoe is a shoe doesn’t have magical super powers.

What an idiotic comment to make. Any flats will make you much faster than running in heavy, trainers. "Super powers"? Do you even run at all to be coming out with utter garbage like that.

How much do you think a 2:09 Ethiopian gets from Adidas? Maybe he does not even get (all of) his shoes for free... For sure, Nike should sign him now.

trane wrote:

How much do you think a 2:09 Ethiopian gets from Adidas? Maybe he does not even get (all of) his shoes for free... For sure, Nike should sign him now.

Dunno, but:

"unless he thought it was worth the risk because Dubai prize money would potentially be worth more than the Adidas sponsor money. "

For him for second, $40,000.

Adidadadida wrote:

energy boosted wrote:

How is this possible, I thought the Adidas boost midsoles literally stored energy in those TPU balls to fire it back into each running stride when the foot left the ground.

Ahhh. You misheard. Its the left foot only. Not when each foot left the ground. The right foot gets no energy return and actually makes you turn in circles. Great for track.

So where one adidas and one Nike and break two hours

What was it $40,000 for second? No doubt much more than Adidas pays a ten a penny African.

https://imgur.com/a/GxpZuNo

Calling BS` wrote:

The OP is a troll.

There's no evidence of what was alleged.

Timestamp of the race video on page 1 is 2:10:30 to see the painted Nike Vaporfly with heel shaved off. It's pretty obvious with the close-up when he's sitting down after the race.

Ihateletsrunnerds wrote:

Snarkatine Sid wrote:

I've tried both. The difference in amazing ! The adidas shoe is soft, but it feels like the return is lost in (no better word for it) misdirection. The Nike shoe is laser focused on forward return. I've only done training runs in them to test, but the Nike shoe is close to 30secs per mile faster.

I agreed with everything you said til the 30 second comment. A shoe is a shoe doesn’t have magical super powers.

I understand your disbelief. All I can say is try it yourself. I tried 3 different shoes (I'm a shoe whore) on 3 different tempo days on a flat course under the same conditions... the Nikes were clearly the fastest followed by Adidas closely followed by Hoka Cliftons.

Moran Alert wrote:

Ihateletsrunnerds wrote:

I agreed with everything you said til the 30 second comment. A shoe is a shoe doesn’t have magical super powers.

What an idiotic comment to make. Any flats will make you much faster than running in heavy, trainers. "Super powers"? Do you even run at all to be coming out with utter garbage like that.

Agree...no need to discus

Meh.

There are dozens of photos of Nike athletes doing the same to wear other shoes.

And of Nike shoes falling apart, including during World Championships and WR attempts.