Get head out of toilet wrote:
Therefore, anyone faster than Viren's times was using blood transfusions???
Neither blood transfusions nor any other kind of doping aids performance, not in the least. Big pharma wants you to think so, but they're only interested in selling more drugs.
Did you got your head out of toilet, Jon? Apparently not. And don't put words/claims into my mouth that I never used.
My w8 is f9 wrote:
I was expecting to see a fatso with a weirdo beard, nice to see he is keeping his weight down and found the Phillips beard trimmer....
:)
Sorry Marty Ligouri if it wasn't in the books it was legal .
The man was a beast !!!!
anyone have a copies of those old viren vids for sale?
HRE wrote:
lifetime sponsor? wrote:Do Olympic champs tend to get lifetime sponsorship? Viren still rocking the ASICS.
Lopes also always seems to slap a Nike hat on for interviews at events.
A handful of runners who've had notable careers end up with what appear to be lifetime sponsorships even if they weren't Olympic champions. Steve Jones still has a Reebok sponsorship and Lee Troop still had a deal with Asics at least as of three years ago. Allison Roe still had something going with Asics a few years ago. I'm pretty sure Joan Benoit still has a deal with Nike but you're back to the Olympic champ thing.
Super elite become ambassadors for the brand post competition if they transcend beyond just being fast. Joan has a statue on the Nike campus!
Some of the ambassador deals are with regional distributors specific the country. No money involved just free equipment.
Wow, that is phenomenal, a truly great 5K runner using his skills to win the race. It is a 5K after all.
In the Tube there's a finnish document of Lasse Virén training towards 1980 Olympics. Title in finnish "Lasse Viren Annat vain kaiken", same in English; "You only give everything".
konroh wrote:
Wow, that is phenomenal, a truly great 5K runner using his skills to win the race. It is a 5K after all.
Yes, he surprised everyone with his tactics. He was not confident in the warm up, admitting this to his coach. The coach, Rolf Haikkola, then shouted him; "Nonsense! Those others has no chance against you!". After that Lasse relaxed and regained his confidence to be able to perform his tactics. He had other tactics planned just in case of course, but he knew that everyone probably would watch his moves, and the tactic that surprised everyone, worked.
You are really downplaying his early training. Add in a few months of Nordic skiing... No reason to run much more than he did.
As for the blood doping, also missing the point the key research on this was done by researchers looking to win skiing races . It wasn't illegal in TF because few were exploiting it.
What's the difference? wrote:
Jon Morange wrote:One believes medicine does not work, the other PEDs.
Medicines and so called PEDs are all drugs.
Yes, but one makes you normal better and the other WAY better.
Get head out of toilet wrote:
U.N.O. wrote:Even if Mr.Virén was using blood transfusions,
Therefore, anyone faster than Viren's times was using blood transfusions???
Neither blood transfusions nor any other kind of doping aids performance, not in the least. Big pharma wants you to think so, but they're only interested in selling more drugs.
You are a dope. The drug used by dopers is a gnats ass compared to the drugs used in legitimate circumstances.
Next you'll be saying that they have a cure for cancer which they keep locked up and only use on their own family members.
Snow melts here in Finland months before track season, also his skiing was very limited. But now after checking his mileage progression from his book, the 1200miles in a year was done in 1968, still able to perform a 8.32 3k. Next year (-69) he did a bit more, totalling 2967kilometres / 1854 miles in a year, what it is, 154mp month, 35,9 mpw, mainly just easy runs...lots of natural talent to be able to go 13.55,0 @ 5k off of such low mileage.
1970 3728k
1971 5332k
(you do the math, if interested).