Pappy435 wrote:
Luke was more powerful. Anakin had more potential.
Hard work beats talent when talent doesn't work
You can’t compare father and son pair as competitors. You have to judge it in the context of the father son relationship and its traditions. Anakin was a dead beat father, but at least he helped conceive Luke. In a galaxy not so far away, someone like Anakin played a role in keeping the family line alive. In the Star Wars universe, he may have been conceived by a Sith Lord...
Bad Wigins wrote:
Obi Ewok wrote:
Luke beat Anakon when Anakin was struggling with the force and bit decrepit. He also gave mercy to Luke and might have lost on purpose
His plan was for Luke to refuse to kill him and kill the emperor instead. But he was too weak to kill the emperor.
Remember that! Sidious was the most powerful of all, by far. Beat down Yoda with a cackling laugh. Pretended not to be able to beat down Mace Windu in order to get Anakin to join the "dark" side, which he had explained was really the "whole force" side. Sacrificed his face to end corruption and stabilize the galaxy, as he promised.
But Vader killed the Emperor, he threw him off the balcony. Though I must admit the Jedi Council were within feet of the Dark Lord of the Sith and not one sensed a thing. But then Luke did project himself on the other side of the galaxy for Saber fight with his nephew.
Vader knew he would die if he killed Palpatine, something he was unwilling to do until Palpatine was killing his son. Palpatine also momentarily forgot force-users can fly, or falling down the hole wouldn't have harmed him.
Episode 7+ is not Star Wars. Though episode 8 was doing pretty good with its theme of debunking the Jedi religion, until it reneged and made Luke an indestructible material force ghost god. Episode 9 should be a final pointless battle royal between indestructible material force ghosts who can't harm each other.
Every movie has to outdo the previous one, so the most powerful Jedi is whoever starred in the most recently released film. In the prequels, we went back decades, and saw the Jedi were actually much more badass.
In the current movies, you don't even need any training. You just instantly become a badass if you pick up a lightsaber.
Nerd alert! Nerd alert!
Bad Wigins wrote:
Vader knew he would die if he killed Palpatine, something he was unwilling to do until Palpatine was killing his son. Palpatine also momentarily forgot force-users can fly, or falling down the hole wouldn't have harmed him.
Episode 7+ is not Star Wars. Though episode 8 was doing pretty good with its theme of debunking the Jedi religion, until it reneged and made Luke an indestructible material force ghost god. Episode 9 should be a final pointless battle royal between indestructible material force ghosts who can't harm each other.
So when the Emperor was fighting Yoda he said that his new apprentice will be stronger in the force than both of them. Yet Obi-Wan mangled him up, I'm wondering if he was really on the Death Star when he vanished fighting Vader?
Palpatine never fought Obi Wan.
Obi Wan was a decrepit old fart when he fought Vader on the death star. Every episode after IV relied on their decrepitness as an excuse for that lame sword "fight." Lucas never expected his B movie to be a smash hit.
The Force is a stand-in for religious baloney in the face of cold hard reality. That's what always sends religion home devastated. Obi Wan disappeared because all that was left of him was his Jedi religion.
Bad Wigins wrote:
Palpatine never fought Obi Wan.
Obi Wan was a decrepit old fart when he fought Vader on the death star. Every episode after IV relied on their decrepitness as an excuse for that lame sword "fight." Lucas never expected his B movie to be a smash hit.
The Force is a stand-in for religious baloney in the face of cold hard reality. That's what always sends religion home devastated. Obi Wan disappeared because all that was left of him was his Jedi religion.
But going by the end of The Last Jedi, was Obi-Wan really on the Death Star?
What ruined Star Wars was the Attack of Clones (Clowns) crap, Count Dooku with lightning from his hands, only the Emperor was supposed to do that.