If one guy maintained speed and you increased your pace by a second in the last 100, you would be opening up a pretty big gap and your kick would look quite devastating.
Watch the video of him run the mile at BU a few weeks ago and he looks awkward running at a pace under 60 seconds
This has gotta be a troll dawg he literally ran the whole 3k at way under 60s/400 pace lmao 7:30 3k is 60s/400, they started at 7:27 pace and kicked down to 7:22.
Hocker is among the fastest closers of all time, based on his Trials 1500m close of 52.6/39.1 in a 3:30.59 race. He also closed in 39.65 (.15 faster than Nuguse, .54s faster than Kerr, in a 3:27.65 race. Fisher outkicked him, but it took a very fast pace to burn out Hocker's kick. In a mid 3:30s 1500m, this would still not be happening. But Fisher long ago when he was nowhere near as good closed the Pac 10 champs in 2017 in 51.81 in a 3:54.67 race (beating Haney, Prakel, Klecker, and Saarel), so he has very good closing speed when he is fresh, just not great acceleration.
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Grant's 13.53 last 100 was the fastest 100 of the race from any competitor. And the race was on pace to 7:27 at 2K in. Both guys ran under 2:25 pace that last K and that's why they got it, squeeze plus a kick
27.06 for 200 kick. off world record pace.
going back to Jacob OG 1500, running himself under water at close to WR pace from the front, still has people saying he has no kick?
and that Hocker is somehow goat? he managed a couple meters better in the war of attrition in the stretch.
that said, ya Hocker has maybe the best kick, and his recent 3k strength result, stands to make that kick better, which is just having more left.
which comes back to. the kick is more about an adrenalin dump under fire,. and having something left.
when Jacob wins a race, they say. well it wasn't his kick, the others did not have anything left after the hot pace etc. etc.
The thing about kicking is that strength is still an aspect. How long can you sustain the kick? If passing someone in the final 70m of a race is not outkicking then i do not know what is.
Coe 11 to 12 100m blast, fails if aerobic is not top
Ovett 150m gap, fails if you are in WR shape and run it out with hard pace last 600m
Walker OG 300m in a slow race over 46 400 guy, Walker top end fails after calf surgery for blood restriction
the all time favorite is Centrowitz, ins the slowest of races, with a great field with speedsters, Centro controlled from the front, 50x 400m from the front, in the stretch 327 guy and favorites could not make a dent.
In very slow races. drafting isn't so much a factor, especially when the followers have to jostle and accelerate for position .....
I just watched the race again. Grant passed him in the final meters of the race. Out sprinted him?
what does the race in Boston have to do with the quantification of the terminology of a race a week later? Maybe Cole Hocker should chime in and let us know if he got out kicked.
You almost never can run your personal best by leading from the gun. You literally have physics working against you because you are breaking the airflow in front for the people behind you. Why do people still try to lead? If the pace is slow enough and you’re confident enough that you aren’t expending “too much” energy you might still be able to hang on. Sometimes that is true, sometimes that is just over confidence. Often times at the pro level there are pacers aka “rabbits” who pace the field and everyone can feed off of. In college and below, not really ever rabbits but a much wider variation in ability means there’s more likely an “anything can happen” scenario occurring.
Strength is speed. Strength is not necessarily a kick.
Hocker ran a ~53 last 400 in the Olympics when it mattered.. Fisher ran > 55 sec. Faster than Hocker in February and the reason Hocker couldn't hang is 100% the reason OP said. Fisher doesn't have a better kick than Hocker. He has better strength. Fisher is a much better 5K runner and only gets beat when his aerobic strength is not used.
This is the same issue with Jacob. Jacob has far more strength than Kerr, or Hocker or Nuguse at the 5K a little more than Kerr and hocker at 2 mile 3k when everyone is peaked. But he doesn't have the leg speed at slightly slower then WR pace for 15/mile. Also all these athletes are really good runners meaning if they race each other and are at different places in their build they will be at different fitness levels at that race. Meaning a favorite for an event may lose because they aren't in peak shape to someone that is closer to their peak shape... This is what makes sports at high levels entertaining. We don't know what will happen till the runners cross the finish line or the final whistle is blown (for other sports). And I hope this never changes in sports world. It's why we can have forums like this and disagree and that is entertainment!
To illustrate the difference between Grant's 1500 close in 2017 (51.8) and the best 1500m guys, Lagat a few years after his 1500m peak was able to close a 12:59 5000m in 51.9 to beat Bekele. There are no kickers like that running the 5000m right now, but to win World's in the 5000m, he's going to have to be able to run 53 at least the last lap and low 2:20s last 1k.
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