What I'm curious about is whether rubbing some triamcinolone acetonide cream on your skin (which is apparently completely allowed) is enough to trigger a false positive. Seems like a strange exemption but maybe the skin membrane is not that permeable to this substance?
AIU Bans 2 Kenyans Including Diana Kipyokei ('21 Boston Winner), Reveals Spate of Illegal Triamcinolone Acetonide (TUE) Use
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Triamcinolone acetonide is also used in veterinary medicine as an ingredient in topical ointments and in topical sprays for control of pruritus in dogs.[16] A series of injections with triamcinolone acetonide or another corticosteroid may reduce keloid size and irritation. It is used as a preinductor and/or inductor of birth in cows. It was also used in the horse racing industry, but it is now a banned substance if found in a horse's system on race day"
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wejo wrote:
THOUGHTSLEADER wrote:
Seems you are definitely making the right move if you are competing anytime soon.
Here's how it's described:
"Glucocorticoids are commonly used as therapeutic substances in sports, but are prohibited in-competition because, when administered via prohibited routes, there is clear evidence of systemic effects which could potentially enhance performance and be harmful to health."FOOTNOTE: Today, glucocorticoids are prohibited in-competition when administered via
oral, rectal and all injectable routes (eg. intravenous, intramuscular, periarticular, intraarticular, peritendinous, intratendinous, epidural, intrathecal, intrabursal, intralesional, intradermal, and subcutaneous). At the time of the AAFs of Kipyokei and Lempus (and until 1 January 2022), glucocorticoids were not prohibited when administered by local injection (periarticular, intra-articular, peritendinous and intratendinous).Did some digging and it seems that if you take this particular type it can show up to 30 days later in a competition test (which explains the spate of positives). There is also low to moderate evidence it could be performance-enhancing:
That's my question.
1) How is it performance enhancing?
I'm giving no one the benefit of the doubt but how would it help in competition?
Test it out on your brother and see if it works.
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Same drug used for “steroid injections” into the joints for arthritis.
Is this what these guys are using this for? Local injections to cover up an injury?
I’ve heard of the cyclists getting busted for this. Im sure could help you push thru a minor injury to finish off the season/tour.
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Triamcinolone is just a steroid used to treat inflammation. Typically prescribed topically for eczema and things like that. Like any other glucocorticoid, long time (internal) exposure leads to hypertension, lower bone density, excess hair growth, loss of muscle mass, etc. If a bunch of people are being robbed of their careers because they used a medical therapy to treat some inflammation, then the process to get these things approved needs to be more clear and streamlined for athletes as others are saying
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Always with the sad excuses. Just accept that they are cheating and that this is just the tip of the iceberg.
To be honest not even cycling is this pathetic. I have never seen a sport where the doping is so laughably obvious and yet apologists twist themselves into a pretzel to make excuses. "Maybe it is a false positive". "Maybe it is not really a PED". Etc. LOL Sure. How many of these high-profile athletes have to be caught before the delusional fans finally admit it? People even came up with utter nonsense about "East African Running Genes" and "the culture of running". Have to say I never heard anyone go with something as absurd as "the Spanish cycling gene" when doping in cycling was discussed. Sorry but every single Kenyan or Ethiopian marathon or distance champion is doping full stop. And any other athlete that emerges to compete with them is as well. That's the reality.410 -
astro wrote:
Sorry but every single Kenyan or Ethiopian marathon or distance champion is doping full stop.
Sorry you and your heroes are slow.
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That is all you have left. Sad. So I guess AIU is racist too? :) The whole thing is a cancer on the sport with these laughable doping excuses and these pitiful attempts at deflection. You "heroes" are dopers, cheaters and frauds. Which you already know, but chauvinism is hard to abandon.
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https://www.letsrun.com/forum/flat_read.php?thread=11419475
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Kenyans don't dope, do they?
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https://www.letsrun.com/forum/flat_read.php?thread=11419475
Can this thread be restored now?Yes. What a joke that was deleted. Apparently the algorithm deleted that one. I have restored it.
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I am closing this thread to new posts as I have started a new thread highlighting Jonathan Gault's reporting on the issue. I probably will eventually merge the two threads into 1.
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