Kenyan Doping Rumors

Out if interest, if Kenya is as dirty as you say it is, why go to Iten? Ethiopia is right next door, so is Uganda, but your type keeps choosing Kenya, why? How would it look if, say, a field athlete went to train in Russia?

As for the two suspects you've mentioned, if they're guilty they'll be sanctioned. No sacred cows in Kenya as we know. None of them has Lawrence Cherono's profile and look what happened to him.

Again, stop going to Kenya if you think it's the dirty and can't be trusted.

And a handful of athletes from America (Shelby Hooligan, Randolph Ross) and other countries got banned for drugs/whereabouts too. So what’s your point?

Rumors, nothing substantial?

Dude, how am I supposed to hear rumors of Ethiopia and Uganda while I was in Kenya... Do you live in Kenya? If yes maybe share some doping rumors you heard about USA then.

I am not targeting Kenya or Iten or Kenyan athletes. I am just sharing things I heard. If you think the rumors are false just ignore this thread please.

Nationality doesn't matter when you are a doper.

As for Cherono, you agree that tests by AIU and Kenyan anti-doping agency are different, do you? I don't know if AIU was involved for the cases I mentioned and that's why I want people who have connections or in the circuit to reach out.

Whistle blowing.

Still rumors since nothing is public at this moment even though personally I have reasons to believe they are true...

But that's the point, I hope letsrun can help follow up. They are journalists (or know the right people to reach out to) and could possibly do better job than me spreading the rumors.

Don’t hold your breath. These “journalists” did nothing in follow up with the Jama Aden bust . Speaking of, I thought it was somewhat odd to see bashir abdi (former training partner of mo farah) as well as abdi nageeye hanging out with abdi bile (former world champ and assistant coach present at sabadell bust) in Eugene.

So Michael Kibet is the 5000m runner who didn't appear at the African Championships.

Wouldn't be surprised if the Kenyan anti-doping agency are handing out shadow bans. This is effectively what the GDR used to do. They would test their athletes before major championships, and those that failed wouldn't go. Obviously, not because of any motive of the ethical safeguarding of the integrity of sport, but to avoid an embarassing doping bust.

It seems beyond incredulous to me, for example, that Ngeny the 800m runner, supposedly couldn't be tested 3 times (and so wasn't selected), when he came out of nowhere last year and ran 1:43 at altitude in his first meaningful race (and hasn't got near it since).

BTW, some hope that the 'journalists' here will follow this up. Jonathan Gault actually defended Manangoi in a recent podcast, despite him and his entire group (including his brother and Tim) falling off a cliff since his suspension. You would be better off contacting ARD or such.

Glad that case 1 can be closed now.

And an update for the guy in question in case 2: he won Buenos Aires Marathon a few weeks ago. Let's see if anything happens...

Tim "fell off a cliff"? Running 3:28, 3:28, 3:30, and getting an Olympic silver medal since Manangoi got suspended?
Can you write a single post on any subject without lying?

Well done, thanks!

The weird thing is that it took the AIU a full year to say anything. It will be interesting to see the timeline in their written decision.

Compared to where he was at (Doha 2019), he did pretty much fall off a cliff. He shouldn't even been at Tokyo, as he only got in because one of the guys who beat him in the trials hadn't been tested enough. And 6th place and 1.4 seconds behind Wighman in trying to defend his WC title is quite a come down, do you not agree? Also, I posted that before the Commonwealth Games.

There was also supposed to be 2 or 3 new guys who were going to be as good as Tim and Manangoi breaking through from the Rongei group, and that haven't materialized.

Not sure if he can, but he doesn't want .

The least newsworthy of any announcement is yet another Kenyan bust.

Yes, he won Buenos Aires Marathon in 2:07:05, nothing special, except for the 14:15 35k to 40k split.

I dont know if it was only a faster section of the race, but the wheather was far from perfect at the time. Almost 63° F and 82% humidity.

2:07:05 is a PB for him.

His previous best two marathons came in Nov 2016 (2:07:39 in Valencia) and Mar 2017 (2:08:52 in Seoul). His third best marathon before this was a "suspicious" 2:08:56 in 2021 in Eldoret with 2100m altitude and a hilly course (the race was not certified by WA)...

The only thing supports him is that his previous 2:07 and 2:08 were likely without the super shoes. But well, if he is a doper...

Kipsang has been on the juice since he got to the states. We need to do better. Crushing real college kids as a 26 year old! What a joke!

Norah Jeruto.

World Champion in the steeple now running for KAT…just wait

Tue. In our country, you can't just go to store and buy steroids. Many other countries do not have those regulations. Just ask Mo Trafeh.