Let's clarify here, are you asking about people who hate tattoos in general? Or hate (mostly poor) people who cover their body with nonsense for attention? Those are very different things.
Let's clarify here, are you asking about people who hate tattoos in general? Or hate (mostly poor) people who cover their body with nonsense for attention? Those are very different things.
Name the last time you saw somebody get a tattoo and thought "That was a good decision".
When tattoos aren't used as symbols in lower-class communities (like the slums I'm from in Philly), rich white people use them to avoid letting go of past hurt or to naively stand out from their peers / be different. It tends to be a sign of poor coping skills.
I know I'm painting with a broad brush here, but this was the most concise way I could explain it.
sky wrote:
L. Glanton wrote:
I mean, they don't affect anyone else but the person who has the tattoo. Why do people feel compelled to judge other people on such an arbitrary thing? A desperate need to find a reason to judge someone?
Tattoos are plain trashy, bud.
They dont call em tramp stamps for nuthin.
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it makes us sad to see hot chicks spoiled with them
no one cares what guys do
Yeah basically this. Ditto with bad piercings.
JustWeighingIn wrote:
I guess I could be an outlier here, but...
Have a PhD, gainfully employed full-time in my field for well respected employer, routinely get bonuses and achieve highest level on performance evaluations.
Make plenty of money, certainly enough to live comfortably and then some.
IQ was tested when I was in elementary school, number not important but suffice to say enough to net me a spot in the gifted program.
Married x 15 years to equally successful spouse.
No drug use or abuse, minimal social alcohol use, but certainly no abuse.
Have tattoos. Also have piercings (nose and industrial).
I guess you're smart enough to realize you are a huge outlier
I could be. Anecdotally though, thinking about folks I have worked with (I'm in healthcare), and those in my social circle who are fairly similar to me (highly educated, gainfully employed, financially successful, intelligent) most of us have tattoos and/or piercings. Sometimes I know this right off the bat because their body modifications are visible, sometimes I only find out when I see them outside of work in casual clothes.
Because I am reasonably intelligent and trained in statistics, I understand that my above statement is only an n = 1.
However, I also recognize that you most often see what's readily around you; and so I guess most of you know and socialize with low SES, low IQ, trashy drug abusers. Sorry for you.
So what compelled you to get the tattoos and piercings? Peer pressure?
Guen wrote:
Over 50 % of the students on a college campus in the US today have ink.
This seems like this thread is comprised of HS posters where mum won’t let them have ink.
So out of touch.
So sad.
It's important to create your individual identify by following the herd.
I used to have a real spiked up punk haircut. Doubt I would have had it if it was permanent.
Discussed briefly in my original post. Certainly not peer pressure.
Doclove wrote:
It's important to create your individual identify by following the herd.
"And yet when you finally reveal your new look to the world, it turns out you are not alone—millions of others have made exactly the same choices. Indeed, you all look more or less identical, the exact opposite of the countercultural statement you wanted to achieve.
This is the hipster effect—the counterintuitive phenomenon in which people who oppose mainstream culture all end up looking the same. Similar effects occur among investors and in other areas of the social sciences."
https://www.technologyreview.com/s/613034/the-hipster-effect-why-anti-conformists-always-end-up-looking-the-same/JustWeighingIn wrote:
Discussed briefly in my original post. Certainly not peer pressure.
I don't see any discussion of the reasons in your original post.
But I did see this in your subsequent post:
Anecdotally though, thinking about folks I have worked with (I'm in healthcare), and those in my social circle who are fairly similar to me (highly educated, gainfully employed, financially successful, intelligent) most of us have tattoos and/or piercings.
It was the "most of us have tattoos and/or piercings" that made me ask.
From my original post:
"My reasons are personal and no one's business but my own."
I also elaborated that sometimes, modifications are visible and other times they are not. Over my education, training, and career, I've had to move to multiple geographic locations for training and opportunities to further my career (I'm 43, just FYI). Each time, I've found a generally similar dynamic, which is to say that I eventually find out that probably more than 50% of people I work with/spend time with have some type of body modification.
For whatever it's worth, I've never gotten a tattoo or piercing with someone, or on a whim, or impulsively. Also for whatever it's worth, I'm considering adding another tattoo; I've been considering this particular tattoo for the past 8 years.
JustWeighingIn wrote:
However, I also recognize that you most often see what's readily around you; and so I guess most of you know and socialize with low SES, low IQ, trashy drug abusers. Sorry for you.
Look around you, those people that you're talking about are the large majority of Americans. I guess you never leave your gated community...
Sometimes I have to leave--to go to the BMW dealer (see, despite the vitriol and nasty generalizations rampant in this thread, I still have a sense of humor).
In all seriousness, your logic is incorrect. The assertions made in this thread were that ALL people who have tattoos are trashy, low income, low SES, uneducated, drug abusing lowlifes. I'm pointing out that that isn't true. Carry on.
JustWeighingIn wrote:
From my original post:
"My reasons are personal and no one's business but my own."
I also elaborated that sometimes, modifications are visible and other times they are not. Over my education, training, and career, I've had to move to multiple geographic locations for training and opportunities to further my career (I'm 43, just FYI). Each time, I've found a generally similar dynamic, which is to say that I eventually find out that probably more than 50% of people I work with/spend time with have some type of body modification.
For whatever it's worth, I've never gotten a tattoo or piercing with someone, or on a whim, or impulsively. Also for whatever it's worth, I'm considering adding another tattoo; I've been considering this particular tattoo for the past 8 years.
OK, so despite your proclaimed intelligence, you are unable to clarify your reasoning process. Which is curious, because most rational, intelligent people are capable of explaining their actions.
In my opinion they are just something to ruin a beautiful body. For example a naked woman with a lot of tattoos doesn't really seem like a naked woman at all, because the tattoos obscure the skin. Skin is beautiful, not ink.
Definitely not unable. Choosing not to, and I was clear about that. I'm also clear that your post is simply an effort to discredit my argument and make it appear as though my intelligence is in question. Nice try, but wholly ineffective.
Tattoos only hurt career if you’re from a redneck area. In progressive California and Colorado they are more accepted and mainstream among white collar workers
JustWeighingIn wrote:
Definitely not unable. Choosing not to, and I was clear about that. I'm also clear that your post is simply an effort to discredit my argument and make it appear as though my intelligence is in question. Nice try, but wholly ineffective.
Actually, no, I am genuinely curious. I am not for or against tattoos, I am just trying to understand the thinking process that goes into making a decision like that. If you are here to make an argument in favor of tattoos, I would like to hear some reasoning beyond "well, most people around me have them".
Actually, I'm not here to make an argument in favor of tattoos. They are a completely personal choice, which is why my rationale/decision making process around getting them is basically irrelevant.
My argument, which I have been very clear about, is to refute the generalizations made about the type of people who choose to get tattoos. No more and no less.
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