Texas men's program

It’s a new program under Flo and Watson. Watch the what happens with the guys they bring in next year. They should improve a lot. What are your times? Is the state of Texas a priority or would you go to another area?

Texas has never been a "power house" they were good under Vigelante, several sub 4 guys in a span of 5-6 years, a few top 10 at XC. I'm sure the guys improve on average as any other program. They just don't get sub 9/4:10 guys every year. Go there because the school is alright and Austin is a cool city if anything.

Do you enjoy running in extreme heat and humidity?

SunGod wrote:

Do you enjoy running in extreme heat and humidity?

Yes, I do actually. Some other programs I'm considering are Ole Miss, Oklahoma State, New Mexico. I know my times are good enough I'm not worried about that. Just looking for any input on the program. I've been able to connect with a few runners on other teams but haven't had luck for some reason here.

Yes, the XC programs in Texas are not good but there is a school that rocks the track. Look into A&M’s program. If you are a 800-mile Guy, that is the place to go to win NCAA championships on the track!

SawVarsity wrote:

Yes, the XC programs in Texas are not good but there is a school that rocks the track. Look into A&M’s program. If you are a 800-mile Guy, that is the place to go to win NCAA championships on the track!

Not a chance. Ever been to that school? There's more to life than just track. I'm picking schools I like then narrowing down programs. A&M has nothing for me.

Understood. There is more to a school than ever winning a title on the track. What about TCU or Baylor? They won’t win anything on the track in the foreseeable future either.

You haven’t told us your times or what you are looking for other than a few schools in the south. You don’t care about good teams but you are considering some that went to nationals. I am guessing that you are a 9:20 guy who is looking for a top notch XC team. Some of your choices won’t take you.

My guess, since he says he is a junior, is that his best times on the track are 4:29/9:26 as a soph. Not bad, but way too soon to be talking to UT, TCU, or A&M. He will need to lay down a 4:18/9:20 this year for any of the top Texas teams to even talk with him.

Sameunit wrote:

My guess, since he says he is a junior, is that his best times on the track are 4:29/9:26 as a soph. Not bad, but way too soon to be talking to UT, TCU, or A&M. He will need to lay down a 4:18/9:20 this year for any of the top Texas teams to even talk with him.

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I ran faster than those as a soph. Just looking for info on UT if you don't know then fine. Was hoping someone on here knew the program.

As someone said before, it’s a relatively new program because all of the coaches are new. Based on the those coaches and the talent coming in, I think there is going to be improvement in the distance program. But you should pick a school for academics first. What are your times as a junior?

With the coaching change, look at how they do this year. Cross country seemed to go alright for them this year.

As far as the schools you've listed, Texas would be more towards the bottom in terms of just the distance program, but as a school it's great.

Just having great grades does not guarantee a reduction at Texas nor does running good times guarantee a scholarship. Some schools have automatic reductions for ACT and GPA.

I’m not big on Watson. He seems to overtrain his guys. Watch the WoW videos on flotrack from this year and from when he was at UNC/UVA. If you’re a distance guy, OK State, New Mexico and Ole Miss are all better options.

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You haven’t told us your times or what you are looking for other than a few schools in the south. You don’t care about good teams but you are considering some that went to nationals. I am guessing that you are a 9:20 guy who is looking for a top notch XC team. Some of your choices won’t take you.

BS. You're propagating a complete fallacy. A 9:20 kid as a junior with outstanding grades and academic scholarship money is 1000000% a collegiate coach's dream.

I'm connected now to two on the team so I'm fine. BTW, they have phenomenal things to say about the program.

Regards.

Hgnndjndf wrote:

I’m not big on Watson. He seems to overtrain his guys. Watch the WoW videos on flotrack from this year and from when he was at UNC/UVA. If you’re a distance guy, OK State, New Mexico and Ole Miss are all better options.

Does New Mexico even have a program for men anymore? I thought that they were cutting track?

As far as distance running programs in Texas go...there are a lot more options than just UT or TAMU. It all depends on the experience that you want. If you want to go to the University of Texas for the tradition, the prestige, and the awesome academics...then go for it. But as far as going for distance running, if I were a 16-18 year old, knowing what I know now years later...I would find the program that fit me best and that would help me reach my running goals.

Here are some of the top 5k, 10k, and steeple times from Texas universities last Outdoor Season; just the top time from a few schools who had guys under 14:30, 30:00, and 9:00...I am sure I am missing someone, but just a good idea that there are a number of schools that have some quality performances from last track season.

5000 meters:

13:38 (Brian Barraza, Houston)

13:52 (John Rice, Texas)

14:04 (Devin Meyer, Baylor)

14:06 (Jamie Crowe, Lamar)

14:13 (Alex Riba, TAMU)

14:14 (Owen Hind, West Texas A&M)

14:15 (Justin Domangue, UT-Arlington)

14:18 (Andrew Curry, Dallas Baptist)

14:18 (Florian Lussy, UNT)

14:23 (Joseph Meade, Texas State)

10,000 meters:

29:30 (Andrew Curry, Dallas Baptist)

29:32 (Jacob Pickle, Texas)

29:39 (Jamie Crowe, Lamar)

29:39 (Mike Lowe, UNT)

30:02 (Brandt Preston, TAMU)

Steeplechase:

8:40 (John Rice, Texas)

8:40 (Brian Barraza, Houston)

8:57 (Raymond Gonzales, TAMU)

8:57 (Trent Phelps, Dallas Baptist)

About 50% of the P5 schools will not take a 9:20 guy. I have 2 sons who both ran faster than that as juniors and they received interest from only about 25% of the P5 schools they contacted. One got a full academic scholarship and the other got a small athletic and a nice academic scholarship at P5 schools. So it is absolutely true.

Rice would be a better choice than Baylor. Ditto UNT.