Abstinence from premarital sex for non-religious reasons..are mine LAME? (male)

You don't even have to try if your me.

Look at Ukrainian women.

horndog wrote:

First off, I would like to eventuallybe in a committed monogamous relationship and have kids.

Given this,

1. I would like to be as sure as possible that I will be committed in marriage. Abstinence from premarital sex would surely be a good test.

2. I don't think I could be a proper judge of a woman's character while having sexual relations. The euphoria from it would cloud my judgement.

1. No.

2. You'd still be judging her character after marriage, no? Well there is PNSO....

Also how do you know there is euphoria?

You can take it up the poop chute and still be a "technical virgin"

good luck!

The Doctor of No wrote:

horndog wrote:

First off, I would like to eventuallybe in a committed monogamous relationship and have kids.

Given this,

1. I would like to be as sure as possible that I will be committed in marriage. Abstinence from premarital sex would surely be a good test.

2. I don't think I could be a proper judge of a woman's character while having sexual relations. The euphoria from it would cloud my judgement.

1. No.

2. You'd still be judging her character after marriage, no? Well there is PNSO....

Also how do you know there is euphoria?

1. Controlling for everything, sex drive, attractiveness, etc. surely you'd bet on men who waited until marriage to have sex (and didn't fail) over those who didn't choose to wait to have less affairs. Maybe the difference is negligible, but this is just logic.

2. The point is you're trying to make the best decision possible for a suitable mate for marriage.

Not really, bro. Some chicks get nervous with virgins. It looks easy, but making love is a skill.

You should go ahead and become religious. You can get a nice girl who is also a virgin.

horndog wrote:

The Doctor of No wrote:

1. No.

2. You'd still be judging her character after marriage, no? Well there is PNSO....

Also how do you know there is euphoria?

1. Controlling for everything, sex drive, attractiveness, etc. surely you'd bet on men who waited until marriage to have sex (and didn't fail) over those who didn't choose to wait to have less affairs. Maybe the difference is negligible, but this is just logic.

2. The point is you're trying to make the best decision possible for a suitable mate for marriage.

1. That’s not logic. Just because you’re not having sex or hooking up, doesn’t mean people aren’t cheating. The only worthwhile factor in predicting cheating during a marriage would be cheating in previous relationships. Sex has nothing to do with it.

2. Sexual compatibility is HUGE in sustaining a relationship in my mind. One of many necessary compatibilities, but still a large one. If you don’t know a persons sexual character, you aren’t getting to know their true identity. Pillow talk, fantasies and such... you can really connect with someone through these activities. What you do is completely up to you - this is just my opinion.

Thanks for the reply.

1. Even still, I would bet on men who abstained from sex before marriage over those that didn't, even if they were non-cheaters in all their relationships, as less likely to have an affair in marriage. It's just a matter of self-control. You mean like emotionally cheating?

2. Physical compatibility is in part, attraction. Literal physical compatibility, I don't care for if she's attractive, and she'll have her chance to size me up. If she has a low sex drive I'm not hard to please-if she has a high sex drive that's perfect. "Pillow talk, fantasies..." I suppose would be unknowns.

At least fap to the plethora of internet porn out there!

No babies

No herpes

Lots of good reasons

horndog wrote:

First off, I would like to eventuallybe in a committed monogamous relationship and have kids.

Given this,

1. I would like to be as sure as possible that I will be committed in marriage. Abstinence from premarital sex would surely be a good test.

2. I don't think I could be a proper judge of a woman's character while having sexual relations. The euphoria from it would cloud my judgement.

The only time you CAN judge a woman's character is right after you've boned her. Otherwise your judgement is clouded by how badly you want to bone her. Saving yourself for marriage is insane.

Would you buy shoes without trying them first?

loqueelvientoajuarez wrote:

Would you buy shoes without trying them first?

All the time, ever heard of running warehouse?

it's obvious that wrote:

horndog wrote:

First off, I would like to eventuallybe in a committed monogamous relationship and have kids.

Given this,

1. I would like to be as sure as possible that I will be committed in marriage. Abstinence from premarital sex would surely be a good test.

2. I don't think I could be a proper judge of a woman's character while having sexual relations. The euphoria from it would cloud my judgement.

The only time you CAN judge a woman's character is right after you've boned her. Otherwise your judgement is clouded by how badly you want to bone her. Saving yourself for marriage is insane.

I didn't phrase what I meant well. What I'm saying is that what you're saying is that that's like trying heroin before you judge if it's good-we all know it's good, but your judgement will be clouded after you try it.

Religions merely adopted morals to encourage logical behavior. The primary reasons are they recognized the negative impact on society as a whole when there are a bunch of bastards around and promiscuity is a major vector for disease ( especially in ancient times when hygiene was poor and antibiotics were non-existent). As evolved as we are, HPV and herpes are epidemic as condoms offer little protection against these STDs. In the US, as many people die from hpv as from HIV.

Ever heard of running warehouse wrote:

loqueelvientoajuarez wrote:

Would you buy shoes without trying them first?

All the time, ever heard of running warehouse?

Yeah but you sneak into your local store and have a little pre-marital with the shoes or their sister model first.

horndog wrote:

First off, I would like to eventuallybe in a committed monogamous relationship and have kids.

Given this,

1. I would like to be as sure as possible that I will be committed in marriage. Abstinence from premarital sex would surely be a good test.

2. I don't think I could be a proper judge of a woman's character while having sexual relations. The euphoria from it would cloud my judgement.

1. You’re going to try abstinence without ever having been in love? Maybe your intuition already knows the future, but consider also that, he who fasts or undertakes austerities without already knowing the reasons in the the book start to end usually has more trouble and less “motivation.”

2. Sex plus ego is responsible for almost everything you see. Every posturing, all ignorance and redundance, all social media from high schoolers to college kids to yuppies to families and then their children becoming high schoolers, their children’s children.

Objective number two is a good start, but if you don’t examine your own ego and everyone else’s, you will still fail and go many years of your life failing to be aware of your failings and that others around you also fail and share in your failings. Everyone’s judgment is clouded and they do not even know it nor know why.

Furthermore, consider how many runners don’t comprehend such things. Their ignorance yes even unto the realm and process of running, is astounding. He who will know what I speak of will walk the very road to true running glory, those who do not will be intoxicated in ignorance and not live fully nor even run fully.

I have not brought any religion into this yet. But religionists take note! For you all are behind on these accounts, too and failing by the rules and beliefs you yourselves agreed to

What is “cool?”

What is “lame?”

Nineveh! You all have forsaken all philosophy. You are behind on the homework of every thing. You don’t know how to be cool anymore. Will you ever find the way back and the way forward?

Oh nations even your mighty runners, ranks bulging, conquests vast.