George Gilder wrote:
Also had many ex military guys claimed to have run 3 miles in 17:00 in boots and 80 pounds of gear on their back - now those guys you can't do any checking, just play along in their BS and have some fun
Well, at Camp Lejeune in 1958, according to the officers in charge, I did win a battalion 3 mile run in 17:29 with a pack (I don't recall 80 pounds and I don't remember what kind of footwear). I have to admit I never did anything as good in the following years (Is a 61 minute 10 mile comparable even without a pack?). I have always wondered whether the Lejeune distance and time were correct. At 78, with no pack, I now run around 24 minutes for 5K, though in today's 90 degree heat I did slow to a 27:55 Independence day win over ten other younger fogies.
I would have to say that George may the the most accomplished person from a non-running perspective that is a registered user on this site.