BREAKING NEWS: Ireland votes to repeal unethical abortion ban! Thank God!

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Yeah. Just expecting people to not get pregnant if they don't want kids, and then to deal with the consequences if they do make a mistake is just too harsh.

personal responsibility is lame wrote:

Yeah. Just expecting people to not get pregnant if they don't want kids, and then to deal with the consequences if they do make a mistake is just too harsh.

Ssshhhh. Little man.

The morally correct, scientific position! wrote:

Congratulations to Ireland for joining the rest of the civilized, scientifically literate world by repealing the ban on abortion...

https://mobile.nytimes.com/2018/05/26/world/europe/ireland-abortion-yes.html?action=click&module=Top%20Stories&pgtype=Homepage

While the US continues to slide back into Stone Age ways of thinking similar to ISIS and the Taliban, at least other educated, civilized countries are make appropriate decisions regarding the rights of women.

Ummm, what are the scientific indications that willfully destroying innocent human beings is good? And how is ripping a human fetus's face or limbs off civilized?

Data from the World Health Organization (WHO, 2010) indicate that only 6 out of 100,000 women die in Ireland as a result of complications related to pregnancy. That is one-half of those who die in the UK (12), less than one-third of those who die in the US (21), and less than one-thirtieth of the those who die in India (200), all countries where abortion is legal. Similar data exist for Chile and Malta where direct abortion as illegal under nearly all or all circumstances (Chile has since become more permissive regarding direct abortion).

IRELAND, where direct abortion was illegal before yesterday, was SAFER for pregnant women AND the unborn than nations where direct abortion was legal.

Expect that to change.

Direct abortion (A) is a risk factor for infertility; (B) is a risk factor for ectopic (tubal) pregnancy; (C) is a risk factor for cerebral palsy in babies conceived later; (D) is a suspected risk factor for breast cancer (the majority of published studies on this have identified abortion as a risk factor for breast cancer and there seems to be a dose effect: the greater the number of abortions a woman has, the greater the risk) and (E) is deliberately fatal to the fetus targeted by the abortion, for a few examples. Rather, ”safe abortion" is a semantic absurdity and a lie. I cannot think of another pairing of the word "safe" with the deliberate killing of an innocent human being. Can you?

Sshhhhhh. You pathetic creature.

Direct abortion is the leading cause of femicide in the world. I don't know how feminists can with clear consciences and thinking explain how killing so many females advances females. I don't think the deliberate killing of any other innocent human beings is any better or worse, either, and direct abortion is also the world's leading cause of death of males, too.

Killing babies is so ethical.

Elemenope wrote:

Direct abortion is the leading cause of femicide in the world. I don't know how feminists can with clear consciences and thinking explain how killing so many females advances females. I don't think the deliberate killing of any other innocent human beings is any better or worse, either, and direct abortion is also the world's leading cause of death of males, too.

It’s not just feminists. Idiot.

However, as it’s been clearly highlighted through law, politics and biology: it’s the woman’s body and she decides. If you think that women enter into that lightly then you are an idiot as well as a hysterical fool.

Sand Dunes wrote:

Killing babies is so ethical.

What? Abortion kills babies? I thought it was just the removal of a "parasite, pregnancy tissue or a mere blob of cells."

Sand Dunes wrote:

Killing babies is so ethical.

Foetus*

It’s not a baby.

It’s a foetus.

Listen here buddy... wrote:

However, as it’s been clearly highlighted through law, politics and biology: it’s the woman’s body and she decides. If you think that women enter into that lightly then you are an idiot as well as a hysterical fool.

The fetus technically isn't part of the woman's body. Anything that could be accessed without passing through tissue is outside of the body.

fetus is external to the body wrote:

Listen here buddy... wrote:

However, as it’s been clearly highlighted through law, politics and biology: it’s the woman’s body and she decides. If you think that women enter into that lightly then you are an idiot as well as a hysterical fool.

The fetus technically isn't part of the woman's body. Anything that could be accessed without passing through tissue is outside of the body.

Without the support from the carrier then the foetus would cease to exist, ergo it's reliant on the host. It's in her body, it's her choice. It should not be used casually, and by and large it isn't. If men would carry babies - do you really think we'd be having this discussion?! Nope, we wouldn't.

Listen here buddy... wrote:

Elemenope wrote:

Direct abortion is the leading cause of femicide in the world. I don't know how feminists can with clear consciences and thinking explain how killing so many females advances females. I don't think the deliberate killing of any other innocent human beings is any better or worse, either, and direct abortion is also the world's leading cause of death of males, too.

It’s not just feminists. Idiot.

However, as it’s been clearly highlighted through law, politics and biology: it’s the woman’s body and she decides. If you think that women enter into that lightly then you are an idiot as well as a hysterical fool.

Well, this "idiot" is correcting your lack of pronoun [it]-antecedent [no antecedent specified] agreement. The body inside a pregnant woman's body is not the pregnant woman's body. And most people (women or men) in most nations are disallowed by law from doing whatever they please with their bodies. Have you not noticed that cocaine, heroine and crystal meth are prohibited in many places, partly because of what they do to their abuser but also because of the potential dangers that such abusers pose to others? Yet with direct abortion, the potential danger to the unborn human being is the very raison d'être. Direct abortion is understood to be purposely deadly to an innocent human being: that is why it is procured and that is why it is protested.

hmmmmmm...hmmmmmm wrote:

fetus is external to the body wrote:

The fetus technically isn't part of the woman's body. Anything that could be accessed without passing through tissue is outside of the body.

Without the support from the carrier then the foetus would cease to exist, ergo it's reliant on the host. It's in her body, it's her choice. It should not be used casually, and by and large it isn't. If men would carry babies - do you really think we'd be having this discussion?! Nope, we wouldn't.

Born babies and many "invalids" (what a name!) are reliant on others. Is it OK to terminate them, too? It is noteworthy that mothers conceive their unborn human beings with a very small small but very significant contribution from men. The unborn human beings are not invaders or parasites.

Idiot day in USA wrote:

Sand Dunes wrote:

Killing babies is so ethical.

Foetus*

It’s not a baby.

It’s a foetus.

Too bad you weren't around to correct Shakespeare who has these words from Joan of Arc in Henry VI, Part 1, Act 5, Scene 4:

Will nothing turn your unrelenting hearts?

Then, Joan, discover thine infirmity,

That warranteth by law to be thy privilege.

I am with child, ye bloody homicides:

Murder not then the fruit within my womb,

Although ye hale me to a violent death.

Everybody has their hands up celebrating "We can kill babies now"!!!

Sand Dunes wrote:

Killing babies is so ethical.

What are you talking about? The rest of us are talking about a medical procedure that has nothing to do with killing or babies.

Elemenope wrote:

Idiot day in USA wrote:

Foetus*

It’s not a baby.

It’s a foetus.

Too bad you weren't around to correct Shakespeare who has these words from Joan of Arc in Henry VI, Part 1, Act 5, Scene 4:

Will nothing turn your unrelenting hearts?

Then, Joan, discover thine infirmity,

That warranteth by law to be thy privilege.

I am with child, ye bloody homicides:

Murder not then the fruit within my womb,

Although ye hale me to a violent death.

Wow! Impressive logic! Let’s base public policy on a ~500 year old play. Should we also revert back to medical knowledge and technology from the 1500-1600s?

Let me quote Jesus - "you reap what you sew"