Notre Dame

Plus Zach Kreft from Oho

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Hopefully one of them can become the next Nicholas Sparks.

indeed

Notre Dame's recruits finish 2, 4, 6 at NXR Midwest yesterday.

It's all about the U

Let's see how they develop before we get all excited. The same was said about Notre Dame women last year and look at how that's turned out. I'll never understand the hype about that place. Nice school but that's about it. They are irrelevant in most sports including football.

It's all about Priests fiddling the choir boys.

comedyrelief wrote:

Hopefully one of them can become the next Nicholas Sparks.

That guy is a jerk.

41-8 and I was there laughing through every minute of it

Karl Hungus wrote:

comedyrelief wrote:

Hopefully one of them can become the next Nicholas Sparks.

That guy is a jerk.

Didn't he buy the local high school a new track?

The U wrote:

It's all about the U

Those convicts sure put a prison yard style beatdown on ND. I was hoping Miami would score 60.

They can spend a whole bunch of time recruiting this week while all the other quality programs will be at Nationals. Can you name one significant distance program in the country that did not qualify a Men's or Women's team and did not qualify a single individual?

EVERYONE HAS INJURIES.

Yes this is what happens when you make a sprinter head coach.

provlw wrote:

Karl Hungus wrote:

That guy is a jerk.

Didn't he buy the local high school a new track?

Yes, but also was a womanizer and cheated on his wife religiously.

One of the hardest things to do in sports is build a culture of winning. Billion dollar franchises in the NFL and MLB have difficulty doing this. Look at the Browns.

Notre Dame's problem in men's cross country, in addition to the aforementioned sprinter head coach, is the erosion of a winning culture over the last five years. They operated with separate coaches for decades and the men thrived. When the new head coach combined XC programs, the focus of the distance coach went to the loaded women's team. So much so that he handed the men over to an inexperienced assistant. From those I talked to, the morale and dedication of the athletes was not good.

To Sean's credit he has put together two very good recruiting classes in a row as the head coach. Now he has to create the culture. It will be tough with no older guys to lead by example and no overwhelming coaching reputation of his own.

It has been done in recent years: Ole Miss, Syracuse and Furman were all bottom feeder XC programs 5-10 years ago.

Hail Mary, full of grace,

Notre Dame's in second place!

The head coach doesn't know XC he just knows designer labels. The recruiting classes for women for the last 2 years have been a disgrace. Both times he failed to get top names and then there was no one left. Amazing juniors probably recruited of the program built by his predecessor. Then crash nothing after. No sophomores, one good freshman. Its happening again. One good runner and another wild card with totally erratic times. They probably thought too highly of themselves and when they were passed over by top recruits they were left again with no plan B. The second tier has already gone elsewhere.

My daughter wanted to go to ND since she was 5 years old. She was okay but no super star in HS. She ran 11:01 for 3200 and asked to be a walk on. She was admitted to the school but told that she wasn't good enough to walk on.

She walked on to another school in the Region and has had the opportunity to run against ND for 4 years. She would have been a scorer for ND every year at the Regional Meet and as high as their 3 girl on 2 different years.

I have since heard similar stories from several others. I enjoy watching ND struggle with lack of depth.