I dont even want to watch womens middle distance anymore

They aren't "3 women", more like "3 men".

I think is for PC reasons... 🙄

Preaching to the choir. We all agree.

Altho I don't know if Niyonsaba is intersex. She looks/sounds female to me, unlike the other two.

It's very apparent that Semenya is unbeatable. Frankly, if Hassan hadn't turned up the pace in the 1500, she would have won that also. I certainly don't enjoy watching it. I wonder what the other runners really think. I know they are afraid to say anything. I would wager that they all think Ayana is doping. So the 800, possibly the 1500, and the 5k and the 10k have pre determined results.

Whatthewhatthewhat wrote:

Preaching to the choir. We all agree.

Altho I don't know if Niyonsaba is intersex. She looks/sounds female to me, unlike the other two.

I agree. Semenya and Wambui look pretty male. Niyonsaba simply does not. (Certainly not compared with Schippers!)

SJWs love Caster and Wambui because they can bully attractive cis-hetero blondes like Bishop, Sharp, Cichocka, and Joswik with full official approval, deny them medals and a means of making a living. Very satisfying for those that hate the status quo.

I watched 2 separate interviews with Laura Muir where she refused to comment on Semenya racing the 1500m..I wish the girls would speak up, its all wel land good for everyone else to make comment but i think if theres to be any changes the girls might just have to speak up about their displeasure. Let the Iaaf know how they really feel

nigel thornberry wrote:

I watched 2 separate interviews with Laura Muir where she refused to comment on Semenya racing the 1500m..I wish the girls would speak up, its all wel land good for everyone else to make comment but i think if theres to be any changes the girls might just have to speak up about their displeasure. Let the Iaaf know how they really feel

I think Muir, et al are being smart - you can't lose if you don't play.

It could resolve itself soon...if I understand the procedure...all the IAAF has to do is prove that natural testosterone is a performance enhancer in women. If they do that, the rules go back to how they were, with limits on people like semenya.

I suppose that means the IAAF has to have the guts to stand up to the African lobby tho...that is not easy.

nigel thornberry wrote:

I watched 2 separate interviews with Laura Muir where she refused to comment on Semenya racing the 1500m..I wish the girls would speak up, its all wel land good for everyone else to make comment but i think if theres to be any changes the girls might just have to speak up about their displeasure. Let the Iaaf know how they really feel

The women competitors would speak up but they can't and be able to keep running and competing.

Therefore the speaking up is left to the rest of us who support them.

It's so maddening.

Its hilarious how a group of white men on trackie.ca are acting all offended on behalf of a black woman.

Please! Give it a rest. Your political correctness is not only fake, but downright embarrassing.

If you are so interested in minorities, then recruit them into your all white distance running clubs. But you never will and OFSAA XC will remain 95 - 99% white.

Melissa Bishop was the first woman to cross the finish line in that Olympic 800m final. The bronze medallist Wambui looks more masculine that the winner of the Mens 800m.

Well in the end it cost Canada an Olympic medal! Lets see if Semenya sends you all a letter of thanks for supporting her on this forum.

Big thank you to 'LetsRun'. Finally we have a website where the truth and non-PC talk is allowed. Notice the quality and honesty of the posts here! Bravo.

What we need is more non-PC forums like this one, as it is our opinions that really matter on this subject. Not some PC SJW white men who all know each other and want to behave like they are the champions of black women rights. Whatever.

trackie.ca has been entirely taken over by paid politically correct posters (PPCP)? Is that website owned by Justin Trudeau?

The politically correct behaviour of these posters is exactly what will destroy the integrity of the sport of track and field.

Go ahead, keep celebrating the participation and success of Y Chromosome Hermaphrodites who have ten times the level of testosterone than real women. It is truly over for women sports.

It will destroy the sport . . . and eventually such PC people will destroy the nation of Canada. Just like they have destroyed Sweden:

https://youtu.be/RZsvdg1dkJ4

https://youtu.be/o_znVnOizU8

Too bad for the sport of track and field and too bad for Canada.

At least Shannon Rowbury has shown some wisdom:

https://youtu.be/qMQJeL302Qs

But wait . . . she is American.

Shannon Rowbury speaks up.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qMQJeL302Qs&t=132s

If they were born with a pvzzy they should compete as women. The true elites didn't get there with only hard training, they also have genetic advantages. Unfair that all elites are born with genetics allowing them to be better than hobby joggers with zero training.

Yeah, partly true, but, as physiologist Ross Tucker said:

Semenya has testicles, no ovaries, and testosterone in the range of a male.

And we don't even know whether "she" had a gash from the beginning or if some african doctor made on for "her" because she was born with an underdeveloped male organ.

The "all elites" have genetic advantages, doesn't hold much ground when the two categories in athletics are Male (open category) and Female (protected category).

I agree with Brenda Martinez. She said that other than Semenya the other two are imminently beatable. She finished very close to the other two herself in the semifinal despite poor strategy allowing a very slow pace.

Somehow the three are lumped together when actually it's one sandbagger who could win by open lengths if desired while the other two are good but not great.

It's still a comparatively weak event on the women's side, like so many of them. That's why it's not particularly shocking to see Ajee Wilson drop her personal best by several seconds, or Frerichs to break through several barriers at once, or for Ayana to clip off 70 second laps throughout the 10,000. We've been accepting mediocrities putting up mediocre results and somehow believing that should be the norm.

Every women's 800 should be 1-2 seconds faster. That's the way I've looked at it for years and I believe it holds up. Yesterday everybody in the field breaks 1:59 and we're supposed to be amazed. Yeah, that it's taken this long. It's been a lazy cautious event for years which is why Wambui and Niyonsaba fare better than they should. Many women should be alongside them.

But it's starting to happen. Before long I think we'll wonder how the 800 was allowed to lag for so long.

nigel thornberry wrote:

I watched 2 separate interviews with Laura Muir where she refused to comment on Semenya racing the 1500m..I wish the girls would speak up, its all wel land good for everyone else to make comment but i think if theres to be any changes the girls might just have to speak up about their displeasure. Let the Iaaf know how they really feel

Joanna Jozwik spoke up after the 800 in Rio and was blasted in the media. Political correctness rules the mainstream media.

Same reason why Obama got a free ride on never mentioning "Radicsl Islamic Terrorism" in eight years as president and Trump gets blasted for not saying "white supremacist groups" yesterday. It is all about being politically correct today.

Women were the oppressed group in the early 20th century. Then the blacks throughout the mid-20th. Now the group with the most sympathy from the media is homosexuals and "transsexuals" (whatever the hell that means).

nigel thornberry wrote:

I watched 2 separate interviews with Laura Muir where she refused to comment on Semenya racing the 1500m..I wish the girls would speak up, its all wel land good for everyone else to make comment but i think if theres to be any changes the girls might just have to speak up about their displeasure. Let the Iaaf know how they really feel

But what are they supposed to speak up about? Rumors and speculation about a competitor's medical condition? Because that's the only thing that's ever actually been public. People make a lot of assumptions about Semenya, Wambui, and Nyonsaba without any real facts ever having been made public.

With Dutee Chand, there's actually some public information because of the CAS proceeding, but with the 800m without any public facts to talk about it looks too much like sour grapes and whining if Muir or the others complain. Look at the response to Huddle obliquely suggesting that Ethiopian runners don't get tested for PEDs enough.

nigel thornberry wrote:

I watched 2 separate interviews with Laura Muir where she refused to comment on Semenya racing the 1500m..I wish the girls would speak up, its all wel land good for everyone else to make comment but i think if theres to be any changes the girls might just have to speak up about their displeasure. Let the Iaaf know how they really feel

The 1500m is called the one five now.