chill wrote:
The old record was/is helt by a 48 year old woman, and I don't know why it seems so impossible that Amy Hughes could have done a similar thing.
That's because 1. You haven't read this thread and 2. You're an idiot.
chill wrote:
The old record was/is helt by a 48 year old woman, and I don't know why it seems so impossible that Amy Hughes could have done a similar thing.
That's because 1. You haven't read this thread and 2. You're an idiot.
Amy forever wrote:
There was a video where Amy was crying after she stopped after the first 12 hours and 60 ish miles. What happened to that?
All the short daily videos of the attempt have been removed from Amy's YouTube channel. This despite the fact that her supporters are claiming the yt videos were evidence of the challenge being completed.
I hope she doesn't remove the mud run video. I like watching it and laughing.
I hope she doesn't remove the mud run video. I like watching it and laughing.
The mud run video is excellent. It shows exactly what kind of superior athlete Amy Hughes is.
350 miles a week in training. That's about 3x the mileage of the ladies currently running the marathon at the world champs.
1. Leaning on the treadmill bars obviously gives you a rest, and thus the record attempt is invalid on this basis alone. She seemed to understand this as per her body language before doing such. It is also apparently stated in the GWR rules. End of story.
2. I do think she ran a ton of miles on that treadmill but by resting on the arms and not having adequate independent supervision (who would independently volunteer or even be paid for their time to watch?) there is no record.
3. Adding in a variety of ad hominem attacks and critiquing the charity part of it without some evidence engenders sympathy toward her and her boyfriend and should be abandoned.
4. My marathon pr is right around Pete K's. But I could not ever do one of these long slogs. It sounds so easy on paper - just slog along at a 12 min pace, walk forward when you aren't running, eat and drink a lot and you will be fine. Not. I think Amy probably does have a talent in this sort of thing.
5. Scam-watcheroo, despite being horrible at email composition, is a beast sleuther, Lord of the Seven Kingdoms and protector of the realm.
Agreed, there is no need to get into any personal remarks as that gives people an easy out by taking offence and derailing the argument.
Terrie's tactics wrote:
Amy forever wrote:There was a video where Amy was crying after she stopped after the first 12 hours and 60 ish miles. What happened to that?
All the short daily videos of the attempt have been removed from Amy's YouTube channel. This despite the fact that her supporters are claiming the yt videos were evidence of the challenge being completed.
I hope she doesn't remove the mud run video. I like watching it and laughing.
Its on fb, not yt you dimwit.
https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=450967058360453&id=188981147892380&__tn__=%2As%2As-ROh my goodness, I can not believe this.
I don't know what to say. I am so very disappointed. I truly believed her. Now I feel like a fool. Who would do such a thing?
Amy Did It wrote:
Oh my goodness, I can not believe this.
I don't know what to say. I am so very disappointed. I truly believed her. Now I feel like a fool. Who would do such a thing?
We've seen this kind of scenario many times here. Usually it turns out to be a desire for fame or financial gain that is the reason.
You seem like a reasonable person for accepting what is seen in the live stream. A lot of the time even when we find evidence of cheating, the cheaters/supporters will still deny everything.
I read that Amy would be releasing video to support her case. I don't know if she intended to release all of it or not, but I was excited to see the reaction and her vindication.
I would be lying if I said I don't feel guilty about this. Had I not mentioned the live stream and sponsor, you would not have found the evidence you did. Thus, I feel I had a hand in her undoing when my intentions were the exact opposite. What a horrid mess this all is.
Amy Did It wrote:
I would be lying if I said I don't feel guilty about this. Had I not mentioned the live stream and sponsor, you would not have found the evidence you did. Thus, I feel I had a hand in her undoing when my intentions were the exact opposite. What a horrid mess this all is.
No need to feel guilty, I would have found the videos eventually one way or another.
I am still really curious to see what is in the other live stream videos of when the mall is closed. I think it is luck that we have that 12 hours of the Sept. 6, 2016 live stream accessible online when I haven't been able to find any other videos from different days when the mall is closed.
If it looks like a fake, smells like a fake, quacks like a fake.....
Dave Keighley's reply to the evidence of Amy Hughes cheating on Facebook just now:
Dave Keighley
Zzzzz and that's proof! 😂😂
Like · Report · Just now
And then he deleted his reply after just one minute.
https://m.facebook.com/groups/259647654139161?view=permalink&id=1190793164357934I've updated the links in the JustPasteIt writeup so that each time cheating directly links to the YouTube live stream and starts the video 5 seconds before that time so it is much easier to see what I saw with the hanging/suspending from the treadmill bars:
Great spot scamwatcharoo, although I'm not sure I'd go quite so far as calling it "damning evidence". Just another detail confirming why Guinness have said they can't accept it as an official WR.
It's clear from her body language that she knows it's not allowed, but dog-tired, running into the night with no eyes watching, I certainly couldn't promise I wouldn't fancy a bit of a lean once in a while.
I'm actually getting into it with her on Twitter. Like others in this genre of runners who claim certain impossible feats, she's skirting around the data issue.
I skimmed her website as well and from I could see there's no evidence of the 53 in 53 run either. Just seems to be a lot of heavily airbrushed photos alongside her claims of being a model and professional speaker. Definitely fits the narcissistic profile of other cheaters. Only problem? No double letters in her name. ;)
Amy Hughes still telling lies right now:
Amyhughes.53 @53Marathons
Because my boyfriend was an extra witness. If you read their statement it states this, NOT because of mileage! Thanks
11:10 AM · Aug 6, 2017
Her boyfriend Dave Keighley is not an "extra witness", he was the one doing the vast majority of the record keeping by himself. And I've posted a link to my JustPasteIt to that yet because I don't think she has seen what was found over night.....
https://mobile.twitter.com/53Marathons/status/894244192616148993Hey that's me! (Ooooh I just broke the pillars of letsrun annoyminity didn't I? Lol.)
Anyway, it's just deflect, deflect, deflect with this one. It's getting fun. Honestly, I know there are so many other things in this world to get pissed about, but when people taint running through insane claims, doping, other cheating, it just fires me up a bit.
I've managed to get through the first 5 hours of the 12-hr video. I logged that she does about 3hr20 running, 30mins walking, 1hr10 of breaks. Running at 6mph and walking at 4mph that would total about 20-miles but obviously no way of knowing treadmill speeds.
More importantly, if you want to invalidate the record how about this ...
At 55-mins, Dave gets the log book, goes over to the machine, stares at it and then immediately records the mileage.
At 1hr53, Dave is nowhere to be seen. A man with a red backpack updates the log book but there is no conclusive moment where he leans over the machine and then immediately records the mileage into the log book. He spends a good 2-3mins staring at the log book.
At 2hr54:44, the backpack man updates the log book. He stands on the other side of the machine and appears to look at the readout before doing the update.
At 3hr35, Dave returns and he and backpack man discuss the logbook. A simple explanation is that they could be calculating what Amy has to do to break the record.
At 4hr38, Dave updates the logbook WITHOUT looking at the treadmill's display.
Additionally at the 4hr38 break, Amy slows the machine but gets off before it has stopped. Actually a comedy fall off! You see the treadmill logo rolls over after she has left it.
Guinness are clear about their standards for verification. It's just sloppy in the execution and they should be disappointed in themselves that because they couldn't be bothered to do things properly, Amy treadmill exertions have been called into question.
Great spot wrote:
Great spot scamwatcharoo, although I'm not sure I'd go quite so far as calling it "damning evidence". Just another detail confirming why Guinness have said they can't accept it as an official WR.
It's clear from her body language that she knows it's not allowed, but dog-tired, running into the night with no eyes watching, I certainly couldn't promise I wouldn't fancy a bit of a lean once in a while.
Agree.
But that is why you have things like official records (with strict rules so a level playing field) versus not.
She should have just billed this as running/walking on a treadmill for 20 hours/day for a week.
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