I've been looking at the zoom victory 3's and the elite 2's from nike and was wondering what the difference between the two is? I've heard something about different materials and one or the other being more like an OG vic plate but i can't tell which
there is no such thing as the victory elite 2. there is only the victory 3.
Don't listen to the guy above me. The elite 2 has an internal carbon fiber shank along with non-removable spikes. It is more aggressive. The Vic 3 has no shank as far as I'm aware, and removable spikes. As to how they compare to the original victories, I have no idea. Never worn the OGs.
cite your sources. I can't find anything about the Vic Elite 2 except an outdated roadrunner sports page (which mentions fixed pins but not carbon fiber), an outdated nike.com australia page that says "product not found", and an article from a UK running news website dated August 4th that looks like nonremovable spikes but no further word.
Are you confusing the Nike victory Elite and Nike Victory 2 as the Nike Victory Elite 2? Here's a breakdown if you're confused:
2008 Olympics: Nike Victory - shorter plastic plate. Removable spikes.
2012 Olympics: Nike Victory Elite - 3/4 length carbon fiber plate. Shortly after: Nike Victory 2 - 3/4 length plastic plate, therefore a bit cheaper. All with removable spikes.
2016 Olympics: Nike Victory 3 - NEW honeycomb 3/4 length plastic plate. Removable spikes. Only matumbo 3 and mamba 3 have non removable spikes now.
NIke Zoom Victory Elite 2. Same upper and midsole as vic3. Stiffer forefoot plate, internal carbon fiber shank, and fixed pins.
Right here:
http://www.runningwarehouse.com/Nike_Zoom_Victory_Elite_2/descpage-NZVE2M1.html
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cite your sources. I can't find anything about the Vic Elite 2 except an outdated roadrunner sports page (which mentions fixed pins but not carbon fiber), an outdated nike.com australia page that says "product not found", and an article from a UK running news website dated August 4th that looks like nonremovable spikes but no further word.
Are you confusing the Nike victory Elite and Nike Victory 2 as the Nike Victory Elite 2? Here's a breakdown if you're confused:
2008 Olympics: Nike Victory - shorter plastic plate. Removable spikes.
2012 Olympics: Nike Victory Elite - 3/4 length carbon fiber plate. Shortly after: Nike Victory 2 - 3/4 length plastic plate, therefore a bit cheaper. All with removable spikes.
2016 Olympics: Nike Victory 3 - NEW honeycomb 3/4 length plastic plate. Removable spikes. Only matumbo 3 and mamba 3 have non removable spikes now.
Reasonably accurate what I will add which alot of people dont really know was that 2008 Nike Victory's were really an identical replica of El Guerrouj's pair of spikes for the 2004 Olympics, plate-in-all except for the little heal hole and for the general public they added a bit of glued on grip. Guerrouj tested them out in Paris in 2003 for Nike as a trial run. The next year he maybe added about a mm of foam padding. Most people think he was running in the Zoom miler because of the upper, but the plastic sole was all wrong for elites so they began working on the Victory far earlier than what they disclosed publicly. Most elites run in the original victory's because they know they are better.
Subway Surfers Addiction wrote:
hhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh wrote:cite your sources. I can't find anything about the Vic Elite 2 except an outdated roadrunner sports page (which mentions fixed pins but not carbon fiber), an outdated nike.com australia page that says "product not found", and an article from a UK running news website dated August 4th that looks like nonremovable spikes but no further word.
Are you confusing the Nike victory Elite and Nike Victory 2 as the Nike Victory Elite 2? Here's a breakdown if you're confused:
2008 Olympics: Nike Victory - shorter plastic plate. Removable spikes.
2012 Olympics: Nike Victory Elite - 3/4 length carbon fiber plate. Shortly after: Nike Victory 2 - 3/4 length plastic plate, therefore a bit cheaper. All with removable spikes.
2016 Olympics: Nike Victory 3 - NEW honeycomb 3/4 length plastic plate. Removable spikes. Only matumbo 3 and mamba 3 have non removable spikes now.
Reasonably accurate what I will add which alot of people dont really know was that 2008 Nike Victory's were really an identical replica of El Guerrouj's pair of spikes for the 2004 Olympics, plate-in-all except for the little heal hole and for the general public they added a bit of glued on grip. Guerrouj tested them out in Paris in 2003 for Nike as a trial run. The next year he maybe added about a mm of foam padding. Most people think he was running in the Zoom miler because of the upper, but the plastic sole was all wrong for elites so they began working on the Victory far earlier than what they disclosed publicly. Most elites run in the original victory's because they know they are better.
Man, I don't think that is correct.
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Subway Surfers Addiction wrote:Reasonably accurate what I will add which alot of people dont really know was that 2008 Nike Victory's were really an identical replica of El Guerrouj's pair of spikes for the 2004 Olympics, plate-in-all except for the little heal hole and for the general public they added a bit of glued on grip. Guerrouj tested them out in Paris in 2003 for Nike as a trial run. The next year he maybe added about a mm of foam padding. Most people think he was running in the Zoom miler because of the upper, but the plastic sole was all wrong for elites so they began working on the Victory far earlier than what they disclosed publicly. Most elites run in the original victory's because they know they are better.
Man, I don't think that is correct.
No it is correct, the original Victory spike plate came from El Guerrouj in 2003-2004 but Nike wanted it to look like he was running in zoom milers. Sorry, I did ramble on and confuse things. If you don't believe me look at the photos.
No offense, but I don't believe you. Please post a link to pic of el g wearing an OG Vic plate in 2003/2004.
You are confused, he was wearing milers, but with what is commonly referred to as a "cut miler plate" that was common with elite runners then. Basically, the regular miler plate extended through the arch, but many elites preferred it to stop around the ball of the foot. Yes, this means it was similar to the victory plate, but moreso that Nike just used what elites had been using for years
[quote]tracktalk is for spiketalk wrote:
You are confused, he was wearing milers, but with what is commonly referred to as a "cut miler plate" that was common with elite runners then. Basically, the regular miler plate extended through the arch, but many elites preferred it to stop around the ball of the foot. Yes, this means it was similar to the victory plate, but moreso that Nike just used what elites had been using for years
^^^This.
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