Joshua Cheptegei (World junior champ and 6th in Rio) accidently admits to being 4 years older than his official a

Rough translation of the article from dutch:

Joshua ,, that you should not drink before you go running, "Hermens said sternly. ,, Those acids are not good." His pupil looked surprised. ,, And an orange after than "Maybe Hermens:. ,, This guy has not so much experience, he is only three years ago really started training That's pretty late, because he is now 24 years old..."?

did frown. Everywhere Cheptegei states that, during the Games of Rio de Janeiro last summer sixth in the 10km, 20 years.

,, For me it was a surprise, "Hermens said to De Gelderlander. ,, I know only a few weeks . " Cheptegei confirms that his year of birth is 1992 instead of 1996.

Oh, of course, now Hermens knows that he is 24 when he no longer needs to compete in World Juniors. And of course he'll admit that Cheptegei was using drugs after he retires--but of course unbeknownst to Hermens at the time.

This is quite an issue.

At the time he won the junior world championchips, he was actually not a junior!

http://running.competitor.com/2014/07/news/favorite-cheptegei-claims-10000m-wjc-gold-uganda_108922

Should be a lifetime ban.

800ftw. wrote:

Should be a lifetime ban.

No it should not be. Maybe for the agent but not for the athlete.

IF you were living in Africa and an agent came up to you and asked how old you were and uyou weren't enitrely sure but thought you were 17 but knew if you said 15 he'd give you $10,000, it's hard not to say 15. Plus who knows who is doing the deceit - a handler, the athlete etc.

Few of these guys are that young. When I ask them about - the marathoners - they generally smirk.

It's the main reason why I think it's a joke that people treat Edward Cheserek is the HS record holder for 2 miles. When he ran 839, he was by his own admission 19.

rojo wrote:

800ftw. wrote:

Should be a lifetime ban.

No it should not be. Maybe for the agent but not for the athlete.

IF you were living in Africa and an agent came up to you and asked how old you were and uyou weren't enitrely sure but thought you were 17 but knew if you said 15 he'd give you $10,000, it's hard not to say 15. Plus who knows who is doing the deceit - a handler, the athlete etc.

Few of these guys are that young. When I ask them about - the marathoners - they generally smirk.

It's the main reason why I think it's a joke that people treat Edward Cheserek is the HS record holder for 2 miles. When he ran 839, he was by his own admission 19.

Once again, your comments are an incoherent mess which evidence poor logic skills.

If you were living in African and an agent came up to you and told you that you could run faster and make many multiple of $10,000 just by taking a little supplement, I guess that could be excused as well.

High School records are for students in High School. Edward Cheserek was in high school when he ran tat time, so it is a high school record.

I can't get too worked up abot age gropu or school records.

Is there an actual video of this interview happening?

rojo wrote:

800ftw. wrote:

Should be a lifetime ban.

No it should not be. Maybe for the agent but not for the athlete.

IF you were living in Africa and an agent came up to you and asked how old you were and uyou weren't enitrely sure but thought you were 17 but knew if you said 15 he'd give you $10,000, it's hard not to say 15. Plus who knows who is doing the deceit - a handler, the athlete etc.

Few of these guys are that young. When I ask them about - the marathoners - they generally smirk.

It's the main reason why I think it's a joke that people treat Edward Cheserek is the HS record holder for 2 miles. When he ran 839, he was by his own admission 19.

Yes, it should. That would help prevent athletes, agents and coaches from lying and cheating.

My second remedy to the situation is just cancel all world age group competitions and delete all the records.

I don't know why we care about young age group athletes in this sport so much when it has been proven time and time again that it means so little for the senior competitions. Nobody gets hyped about u21 footballers (soccer).

I also find it difficult to understand why you are condoning paying grown men to beat children in footraces.

I want to know how old Ghirmay Ghebresalassie really is.

Would it be a serious human rights violation to require a birth certificate in order to compete as a junior or youth? Keeping in mind that competing in such is a privilege not a right.

Trudat wrote:

Would it be a serious human rights violation to require a birth certificate in order to compete as a junior or youth? Keeping in mind that competing in such is a privilege not a right.

No but birth certificates are easy enough to fake in many countries. It's up to the Federations to age verify these athletes and many of the Federations officials are inept or corrupt.

I remember when Lamine Diack came to the USATF Annual Meeting and I asked him what he was going to do about age cheats at World Juniors. He assured me it wasn't going to be a problem *eyeroll*

polevaultpower wrote:

No but birth certificates are easy enough to fake in many countries. It's up to the Federations to age verify these athletes and many of the Federations officials are inept or corrupt.

I remember when Lamine Diack came to the USATF Annual Meeting and I asked him what he was going to do about age cheats at World Juniors. He assured me it wasn't going to be a problem *eyeroll*

It wasn't a problem for Diack.

He probably made tens of thousands of dollars in bribes each youth or junior championship.

Rojo I'm almost always on your side, but not on this one regarding Ches' age. How old was Rono at WSU? Don't we still honor his ncaa records? High school DOES have age limits, as does college. In order for the records to mean anything at all, we don't really have any choice but to use those.

I had Kenyan teammates and they had different ages on all IDs. It was explained to me as being very simple to change you age or birthdate.

This presents an unfair advantage for this gentleman at age group placing.

rojo wrote:

800ftw. wrote:

Should be a lifetime ban.

No it should not be. Maybe for the agent but not for the athlete.

IF you were living in Africa and an agent came up to you and asked how old you were and uyou weren't enitrely sure but thought you were 17 but knew if you said 15 he'd give you $10,000, it's hard not to say 15. Plus who knows who is doing the deceit - a handler, the athlete etc.

Few of these guys are that young. When I ask them about - the marathoners - they generally smirk.

It's the main reason why I think it's a joke that people treat Edward Cheserek is the HS record holder for 2 miles. When he ran 839, he was by his own admission 19.

So you think its ok for Afircans to cheat and beat their more honest Western counterparts at juniors only competitions through guile?