For those of you that actually believe the election is, or could be, rigged: How so? I would like to hear exactly how you think a group would go about perpetrating voter fraud to a scale that it could change the outcome of an election.
For those of you that actually believe the election is, or could be, rigged: How so? I would like to hear exactly how you think a group would go about perpetrating voter fraud to a scale that it could change the outcome of an election.
If they want the election to be rigged, they should let ESPN run it.
Better question. Why were democrats caught on camera committing voter fraud if an election can't be rigged? Why risk it if it can't change the outcome?
Watch okeefe videos wrote:
Better question. Why were democrats caught on camera committing voter fraud if an election can't be rigged? Why risk it if it can't change the outcome?
Because they were debunked back in 2012.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/05/17/james-okeefe-voter-fraud-video_n_1524146.htmlit is rigged in the same way chemtrails are changing our behavior
run with the wom wrote:
Watch okeefe videos wrote:Better question. Why were democrats caught on camera committing voter fraud if an election can't be rigged? Why risk it if it can't change the outcome?
Because they were debunked back in 2012.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/05/17/james-okeefe-voter-fraud-video_n_1524146.html
How did they debunk a video that came out yesterday in 2012?
Watch okeefe videos wrote:
Better question. Why were democrats caught on camera committing voter fraud if an election can't be rigged? Why risk it if it can't change the outcome?
That is not a better question. People on both sides to dumb things. If a democrat is trying to rig the election with voter fraud, the reason why is ignorance.
It's like asking why a guy is fishing in a pond that has no fish. The answer is likely that he doesn't know there aren't fish in there. Or maybe he does know and for some reason he wants other people to think there are fish. My question, relative to my original question, is how does he catch a fish in a pond that does not contain any fish?
"do dumb things", not "to dumb things"
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HmmmHmmm wrote:
Search Engine Manipulation Effect
So you think Google can rig the election? First, that was proven false. Second, attempting to influence public opinion is not rigging an election.
Election was rigged long ago: gerrymandering, public housing, media bias, corporate/government intersection, etc.
Speaking of SEME: search Google for "how to rig election" and one is surprised by how many articles come up along the lines of "Yes, ppl are trying to rig the election: and they're REPUBLICANS!"
It amazes me that some liberals don't understand Trump when he says it's all rigged.
Trump exaggerates and speaks symbolically. Do I think he thinks all illegal aliens are rapists? No, but he wants immigration stopped. Do I think he thinks voting fraud is the main reason why it's rigged?
No, I think largely he means the whole system is rigged because the mainstream media is so biased.
Rush Limbaugh did a much better job of explaining than I could yesterday:
For example, take a look at this article that is entitled in Google News "Hillary Clinton Gets More Donations From the Media Than Donald Trump, Study Says | National News"
The actual headline should be "96% of journalist political donations went o Hillary Clinton."
If you don't have the press in your corner, it's very hard to win.
Do you see stories about how huge Trump rallies are?
Did you see the same gravitas given to Bill Clinton sexual assault allegations when he was running as you do now?
Do you see the Washington Post downplaying their own poll that showed Trump this week to be down just 4 points - within the margin of error?*
Do you see the media playing up Hillary's comment of calling half of Trump supporters as 'deplorables' the same way they went after Romney for his 47% comment?
Do you see the media portraying Hillary as a rich out out of touch elite like they did Romeny even though she and Bill have amassed a $100+ million fortune while being in public service their whole life?
But read the Limbaugh link. He explained it well.
*If the roles were reversed, you'd be seeing articles like. "Despite multiple scandals, Hillary Clinton amazingly is in virtual dead heat with Trump."
Not to mention increasing govt dependency (whether home-grown welfare recipients or "new" citizens on govt assistance) beyond 50% of the voter base.
Or taking over education (common core) or vilifying the anti-communist past and praising the socialist present.
Oh, yeah, the tipping point is past. America is Europe 20 years ago; and will soon become the Caliphate outpost that characterizes Europe today...
Greaaaaat.
HmmmHmmm wrote:
Election was rigged long ago: gerrymandering, public housing, media bias, corporate/government intersection, etc.
Speaking of SEME: search Google for "how to rig election" and one is surprised by how many articles come up along the lines of "Yes, ppl are trying to rig the election: and they're REPUBLICANS!"
OMG. I'm looking for serious responses, not whining. I am talking about criminal acts like voter fraud, not influencing public opinion.
off base wrote:
OMG. I'm looking for serious responses, not whining. I am talking about criminal acts like voter fraud, not influencing public opinion.
"Among other things, Foval goes into great details about how fraudulent out-of-state voters are hired on at fake "shell companies" just so they can register to vote and are then paid for their votes through "paychecks" from those same entities. Foval goes on to detail how the operatives bring people in to different states, using their own personal vehicles or by having shell companies rent vehicles, instead of using buses which would make it easier to prove a conspiracy.
“It’s a very easy thing for Republicans to say, “Well, they’re busing people in.†Well, you know what? We’ve been busing people in to deal with you f**king *ssh*les for fifty years and we’re not going to stop now, we’re just going to find a different way to do it."
“When I do this I think as an investigator first – I used to do the investigations. I think backwards from how they would prosecute, if they could, and then try to build out the method to avoid that.â€
Per Planet Free Will, the video also features Bob Creamer, a fraudster who served time for a $2.3mm bank fraud in relation to his operation of "community organizing" groups in the 90s. Creamer is also the founder of Democracy Partners and husband of Democrat congresswoman Jan Schakowsky. The undercover journalist details a plan to register Hispanic voters illegally having them work as contractors, to which Creamer replies that “there are a couple of organizations that that’s their big trick,†and that “turnout is huge, huge, huge.â€
The media bias argument is crazy to me. What about Fox, Rush, InfoWars and all the other conservative media? Sure, there are more liberal news outlets, but it's not state news -- it's not forced on anyone. Watch something else. There is no shortage of people willing to tell you what you want to hear.
I would have a problem if a major network refused to air ads from one party, but I've never heard of that happening.
So if Trump is elected, we need to make Rush Limbaugh are National Translator?
I guess there is a scenario worse than simply having Trump as POTUS.
Is Rush Limbaugh still on the radio? Haven't heard him in years but must admit that I haven't gone looking for him down the dial.
A few buses are not going to affect anything. They would need a whole stream of buses that would certainly get noticed. If this is true, these people might think they are rigging the election, but they are not.
"Rush Limbaugh did a much better job of explaining than I could yesterday"
Sweet Jesus you actually listen to that guy? I thought you had an education.
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