After watching the BBC Panorama Doco from Mark Daly, 'Catch me if you can', I am decidedly pro-doping

What would letsrunners post about if doping became legal? That in itself would eliminate a good percentage of threads and troll attempts.

Yeah...do it.

I am starting to think you just set a new WR era. Like before and after the death of Jesus. WR in the modern Chemical era, WRAC WRBC. Running at the professional level is just as off limits for most people as playing in the NFL is , so it really affects very few people. I don't want my kids to attempt to play American Football and it will simply be the same about running competitively. No big deal really. I don't watch football and nobody makes me watch running. I could just quit running.

Probably should mention TUE is just as bad as doping without in my book, so yeah, I think almost all professional runners dope. TUE just allows some power to be allocated for who stays at risk of being busted and who doesn't. It is too obviously a system ready for rampant abuse.

There in no going back. Unless you also make TUE go to special olympics( and take intersex with you)

This is what it come to. In the interview Kara Goucher says, "Look at Lance." Hell mother F-ing yes look at Lance. Livestrong. Nike. Corporations and charities bound to lies and cheating. Countless cover ups. Is it weird that Daly talks about Scottish athletes of the past doping allegations and right now Butchart and Weir, and others, are crushing it. Farah?

It's all shite. Cheats and liars the whole lot of them.

There was a time without testing. Name drop a few great runners that ever lived and some will be from that era. I'm not say that they doped but I am saying they could have if they wanted to. I don't think that if they did it was malicious or wrong because they simply did not think it was cheating back then. It was like vitamins and supplements to them or they were into the idea of testing things out. I think the same stuff goes on now but I do think it is wrong now because we do have testing and they have to intently try to beat the tests or probably pay off testing or perhaps the whole thing is just a big conspiracy against certain other countries that have better athletic drug programs. It's all a very disturbing thing.

There is too much money involved for professional sports to be clean. Capitalism doesn't care about #cleansport and the same goes for the individual. Lance Armstrong sat as king of the hill -- would he go back and do it all again if given the choice. Of course he would...it's good to be king.

There is too much corruption and an imbalance of power. Lord Coe is a British athlete and loves his country. He was the director of British Aths. Then VP of IAAF and now Pres of IAAF after former president was ousted and caught in corruption. Interestingly enough, Coe's countrymen have suddenly risen to be "top of the pops" in this decade...and if what we're seeing from the Scots, another British wave is coming. Coincidental? Does Coe really care about IAAF, or British supremacy?

I'm fine with opening the PED doors. It's talent + drugs = results.

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It's simply not worth trying to push #cleansport because there is no yellow brick road and there isn't any purity at the end.

Sure there is. The bio-passport and the steroid passport. It works.

The federations and the IOC have no interest in cleaning up their events.

Allow doping and eliminate women's track.

Doped women looked a little too masculine. Best to cut the sport in 1/2.

I have watched enough movies to know that we need to be at our physical peak once the aliens/zombies arrive. If we wait to start trying to create supermen until after they get here, it will be too late.

Bring on the PEDs.