If I was transgender, I would be angry with Castor Semenya

She's not transgender though. She's intersex.

What do you mean, "....if....."?

Intersex and transgender aren't the same thing, buddy...

Wtftw wrote:

Intersex and transgender aren't the same thing, buddy...

I don't think I know you so I can't say we are friends.

You seem to know a lot about this.

Explain

Conundrum wrote:

Wtftw wrote:

Intersex and transgender aren't the same thing, buddy...

I don't think I know you so I can't say we are friends.

You seem to know a lot about this.

Explain

Lmao. Come onto the boards all high and mighty... trying to speak for a population that you know absolutely nothing about... blows up in face... love it!

You really don't know the difference between transgendered, transsexual and intersex? Probably shouldn't be starting threads on it..

The explanation is, transgender is when someone is born male biologically but feels they are female so transitions to female, or vice versa.

Whereas intersex is when someone is born with ambiguous biology and often the doctors simply decide which sex they will be and try to change them to fit that.

To be honest, I feel like it SHOULD be that intersex people are left how they are naturally without surgical intervention etc but I know that would be a hard life and I can understand why parents would desperately want their children to fit into either male or female and nothing else. Life is hard enough without having to explain all of that to your classmates etc and it's just sad. i read somewhere intersex births are 1 in 1000 so it is way way more common than we realise.

Conundrum wrote:

You seem to know a lot about this.

Explain

YOU'RE the one who started the thread, moron. Do some effing research before you talk.

green salad wrote:

The explanation is, transgender is when someone is born male biologically but feels they are female so transitions to female, or vice versa.

Whereas intersex is when someone is born with ambiguous biology and often the doctors simply decide which sex they will be and try to change them to fit that.

To be honest, I feel like it SHOULD be that intersex people are left how they are naturally without surgical intervention etc but I know that would be a hard life and I can understand why parents would desperately want their children to fit into either male or female and nothing else. Life is hard enough without having to explain all of that to your classmates etc and it's just sad. i read somewhere intersex births are 1 in 1000 so it is way way more common than we realise.

Thanks, I just googled it and Castor is intersex not transgender as I had thought. Based on her appearance, I jumped to conclusions.

That does create more of a conundrum, but a think greater delineation of the definition of male versus female is required to make sure these competitive events are fair.

I am less judgmental of her situation now.

People , yes conundrum got it a bit wrong but be fair , most of the support for semenya comes from the transgender community . Instead of ignoring a valid argument feeling superior , why don't you debate the point

macdaddy wrote:

Conundrum wrote:

I don't think I know you so I can't say we are friends.

You seem to know a lot about this.

Explain

Lmao. Come onto the boards all high and mighty... trying to speak for a population that you know absolutely nothing about... blows up in face... love it!

You really don't know the difference between transgendered, transsexual and intersex? Probably shouldn't be starting threads on it..

haha

Rayman96 wrote:

People , yes conundrum got it a bit wrong but be fair , most of the support for semenya comes from the transgender community . Instead of ignoring a valid argument feeling superior , why don't you debate the point

Yes maybe I should have googled the topic before starting a thread about it (God-forbid, I would hate to be the individual who diminishes the quality of this board due to my failure to research topics)

But I agree that there is a problem that needs to be addressed. I would be more judgmental of Castor if she changed genders and then had acquired advantage. But This case is quite different.

However, a clear definition of male or female is required, to eliminate unfair advantage. If someone tips more male they would have an unfair over competitors. That's an indisputable fact.

Conundrum wrote:

However, a clear definition of male or female is required, to eliminate unfair advantage. If someone tips more male they would have an unfair over competitors. That's an indisputable fact.

Thank you for bringing this to our attention. Without you, we wouldn't have been aware of this issue, nor would there have been any debates about it.

We are forever grateful for your contribution.