Dibaba Is now 6 sec faster than the next "clean" 1500 runner ever...

This is why Kenya needs doping controls. Not 3 tests a year. A world record holder should be tested daily.

edward teach wrote:

This is why Kenya needs doping controls. Not 3 tests a year. A world record holder should be tested daily.

Umm she's from Ethiopia

Also 6x better looking. Give her a break.

I've seen lots of stories about how weak doping controls are in Kenya.

I've never seen anything about what doping controls are like in Ethiopia, good, bad or otherwise.

Does anyone know what the antidoping situation is in Ethiopia?

There is absolutely no doubt that Dibaba is a doper as well.

When I look at the top 23 runners inlcuding Dibaba I just can't help but think "birds of a feather flock together".

bruh wrote:

edward teach wrote:

This is why Kenya needs doping controls. Not 3 tests a year. A world record holder should be tested daily.

Umm she's from Ethiopia

But where are all these Kenyan's coming from?

It seems likely but then you might also consider that perhaps she would not be six seconds clear of the other not yet known dopers had her sisters and other Ethiopians and Kenyans who have run sub 14:20 really targeted the 1500m.

Considering the pace that Ayana closed and that guys who run 14:11-15 typically can run low 3:50s or better, maybe Tirunesh Dibaba and Meseret Defar, along with Ayana and Genzebe Dibaba, should all be there. How they got there is another story.

But where are all these Kenyan's coming from?[/quote]

Kenya

It's DOPERRRIFFIC!

Look at the dates of the races on that list. Except for Dibaba and Hassan, none were run before there were any effect deterrents to doping. The countries they all ran for don't give you any confidence either.

Whatever the supposed new letter from Wang Junxia says, I don't think anyone seriously believes that anyone on that list is likely to be clean with the arguable exception of Dibaba and Hassan.

What it really comes down to is a Usain Bolt sort of question - is Dibaba legitimately a huge outlier or is the only way to beat doped times to be a doper?

I think it can fairly be argued either way. Dibaba looks like the perfect runner. Her sisters are also great runners. The times definitely raise an eyebrow, but there actually are insanely talented people out there.

The women's 1500 is so historically doped that no one knows who the clean record holder may be. Except that it is likely in the 3-56/57 ballpark

Can a clean dibaba surpass all the doped performances. It seems unlikely

In percentage terms it is not much more impressive than other world records

Women's middle distance running is weak. That's why she's an outlier, because she is strong.