Can anyone give me a brief description of what happened in this race? Did he lead from the gun? Win in a kick? I saw him run in Bozeman, MT a few weeks ago (4:05 leading the whole way), and I knew he was something special. But even I didn't expect 3:55 this soon. Should be a blast to watch Ches vs. Soratos at NCAAs!
Thanks
Riley Master rabbited through 1k with Soratos, Kidder, Atchoo behind. Soratos assumed lead and maintained until the bell (300m track). Kidder passed for lead and held until top of curve. Soratos pulled up next to him, took a look over at Kidder, then hit an extra gear. Won going away by nearly 2 seconds. Unreal kick. 1:59/1:56 splits.
Here is my recap--- damn that guy is for real. Hope he's clean.
King Ches will watch the tape and be like "I don't want any of that coach, I'm running something else at nationals!"
3:55 mile as a senior is pretty good for a guy that was a 1:58/4:02 freshman. And that's 4:02 1500.
I readily admit to being a strong doubter, as I've always had my issues with conversions- but this kid just blew all that out of the water, damn! absolutely the real deal, no reason he isn't one of the top 3 candidates for ncaa's. nice to see a kid from a smaller school have such success.
Here are the results.
Section 6
1 Soratos, Cristian Montana State 3:55.27
2 Kidder, Brannon Penn State 3:57.13
3 Atchoo, Michael Strava TC 3:57.58
4 Winn, Daniel Oregon 3:57.62
5 Hurysz, Jake Colorado 3:58.13
6 Riva, Thomas U. of Victoria 3:59.00
7 Tate, Mike Southern Utah 4:00.07
8 Burkstrand, Travis Brooks 4:04.39
9 Shellhorn, Eric Utah State 4:05.61
10 Alexander, Colby Oregon 4:07.78
11 Hillenbrand, Matt Brooks Beasts 4:08.73
12 Harris, Nick Washington 4:08.81
-- Masters, Riley Brooks Beasts DNF
-- Yorks, Izaic Washington DNF
-- Schmitz, Tommy Speed Factory At DNF
So sick.
Someone send me this kid's email. I feel like I should paypal him and buy him a beer. His mile pb coming into the year was 4:06. He did have a 3:43 1500 pb but what a freaking improvement.
If you have not watched the race, you should.
Let me note that those two seconds he put on Kidder were in the last 80m. Soratos looked over at him twice, not a glance but like a full on head turn, said something (anyone know what was said?) and then BOOM, like he was shot out of a cannon. He was flying at the finish line. He got done but didn't collapse, he let out this massive roar/yell and was jumping and bouncing around. Unreal.
LR split gurus, he ran a 4 sec negative split, what could he have gone on even splits? With that kick and those splits, I wouldn't be surprised to see him go 3:52.
Pat Casey Redux baby!
Dempsey 309 wrote:
Pat Casey Redux baby!
Except Casey never ran 3:55, much less with a nasty kick!
Might be the new college/pro star miler, just dropped 7 seconds in one race! That is the biggest collegiate improvement at that level that I am familiar with, although German's 3:55 as a freshman was a big jump, at least he was already a HS all-time great.
I can see MSU as a program with a NAU future. Will never have the athletic department support to become a powerhouse program, but with the right coaching and recruiting can slowly build a solid high altitude xc/distance program that is always in the top15 or better at NCAA's. Thought it was going to happen after Shannon Butler exploded on the scene, but maybe with internet and social media it will be easier to get out the message after Casey and Soratos running sub 4 miles.
Pretty similar resemblance to German Fernandez in smoothness and form, but he has much more speed than German (has run 1:50 indoors). NCAA's is going to be nasty with his ability to switch gears at the end, Manzano-like, the last 60m.
NCAA Mile Favorite, as of today, with Cheserek and that Providence kid.
Pat Casey ran a converted 3:54.xx
Also, this was not a 7 second improvement. His previous PR was 4:05.18. It was a 9.5 second PR... If you are going to spew off facts, let's get the facts to be factual.
I'm just glad that Soratos has been able to get in a highly competitive mile. He's been racing against other Montana athletes and no one's come within 5-10 seconds of him.
What's his training like?
Casey's conversion MAY have been worth that, but Soratos has left no doubt (individual adaptations will affect altitude performance).
I was using his 1500 time of 3:43.7 to measure his real progress. The 1500 to mile conversion is much more reliable than altitude/flat and de facto he was already a 4:02 miler.
In any case, we can agree that he is the most meteoric new talent in years, maybe ever, at this level. If he were to beat Ches, that would be legendary. The stage is now set....
MTRaceTimer wrote:
Pat Casey ran a converted 3:54.xx
Also, this was not a 7 second improvement. His previous PR was 4:05.18. It was a 9.5 second PR... If you are going to spew off facts, let's get the facts to be factual.
I'm just glad that Soratos has been able to get in a highly competitive mile. He's been racing against other Montana athletes and no one's come within 5-10 seconds of him.
Actually the 4:05 was run in Bozeman and converts to about 3:56, but he also split a 4:02 in Bozeman, which is somewhere around a 3:54 ---- a lot of guys laughing at those conversions but all those anonymous posters disappeared last night. So technically yes, a huge PR last night, but completely in line with his other races this season.
But that KICK- pure nasty, naked, badazz speed. A must watch.
Do you happen to have a link? I'd love to watch it!
MF Phan wrote:
LR split gurus, he ran a 4 sec negative split, what could he have gone on even splits? With that kick and those splits, I wouldn't be surprised to see him go 3:52.
Negative splits > even splits
Congrats, Cristian! Representin' the Hartnell Panthers of Salinas, California!
Running on Empathy wrote:
Negative splits > even splits
Four seconds is way too much for optimal mile time. Even or one second maximum.