So Evan Jager just ran1:50 800m. I know nothing about his training, but I guess it's not many 800m workouts. If we take someone with similar PR in 5k, like Ben True, would he run 1:50 off distance training and high mileage? I mean, do 13:0x 5k guys just run 1:50 without training for the 800? Like I said, I know nothing about their training, and I'm just taking examples...should 14:10 5k guy be able to run around 1:55 during base training?
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7800 wrote:
So Evan Jager just ran1:50 800m. I know nothing about his training, but I guess it's not many 800m workouts. If we take someone with similar PR in 5k, like Ben True, would he run 1:50 off distance training and high mileage? I mean, do 13:0x 5k guys just run 1:50 without training for the 800? Like I said, I know nothing about their training, and I'm just taking examples...should 14:10 5k guy be able to run around 1:55 during base training?
yes, i think a 14:10 guy should be able to run 1:55 and a 13:00 guy should be able to run 1:50
I can think of a certain American 12:53 guy who once ran the last 800 of a 1500 in 1:46....and lost to 12:50 guy.
That's why you do speed training.
what kind of speed training would that be for a distance guy? Like strides or things like 300m at 800m pace during base training? Or just jumping into 800m races and run a crappy times? Would you suggest doing less miles and more focus on speed or just adding strides again and again after all easy runs and keeping the miles in? Is the focus on improving the 200m time (like going from 25.5 to 23.9) or improving the ability to tolerate running 600m in 1:25 with the same 200m spees as before (25.5). Thanks.
coach d wrote:
I can think of a certain American 12:53 guy who once ran the last 800 of a 1500 in 1:46....and lost to 12:50 guy.
That's why you do speed training.
Based on the information in your post, it sounds like the winner won because he was faster over 5k. Please define this speed training for us idiots.
Even Ryan Hall has run 1:51(in high school!). Two 55 second 400s isn't very difficult when you're ELITE
I know nothing about the specifics of Jagers training but I'm sure his focus is the steeplechase/5000 with 1500m work in there. A well balanced training plan for an elite will focus on their main events with small touches of speed. Strides, finishing runs with sets of 150s/200s.
I doubt he does a whole workout at 800 pace. Again just my educated guess.
Ryan Hall said:
http://www.letsrun.com/highschool/hall.html.
800m's is the toughest event in track. No question.
To run a good or even great 800m, you have to be tough, strong and have speed.
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