John Graham, Scotland, known marathons?

A friend of mine knows Mr.Graham very well, I will see if he is interest in posting.

He thinks very highly of the guy.

Chicago/1985/2:12:55

Rotterdam/1986/2:13:42

London/1987/2:12:32

The London race was slow in John's opinion, so

he started running fewer miles and wound down his

career.

All the above is from the website ardbruach.

Here's what Bob's talking about:

http://www.ardbruach.org.uk/John%20Graham.htm

Good stuff, all!

Given everything, the list again follows. Uncanny how John was on the spot for a few records, NYC 81, Rotterdam 85, Chicago 85, not to mention his own "what if" in 81.

Despite the copy on the site mentioned above, I'm going with at least run in 79, the Nike-OTC race I believe Wells and Sandoval tied in. I think there's a photo out there showing him in that field. Quax and Buhmann (?) maybe there, too.

Was John among the first recognized rabbits at this distance, too? I recall reading that his presence at Rotterdam 83 was in fact this, with Rob D. and Alberto supposedly to go at it.

1979 Laredo 1st - 2:13.21

1979 Nike-OTC 8th - 2:15.04

1980 NYC - 3rd - 2:11.47

1981 Rotterdam - 1st 2:09.28

1981 NYC - 44th - 2:19.13

1982 Commonwealth - 4th 2:13.04

1982 NYC

1983 Rotterdam (rabbit) - ?

1983 NYC - 5th - 2:10.57

1984 NYC

1985 Rotterdam - 2:09.58

1985 Chicago - 2:12.55

1986 Rotterdam - 2:13.42

1986 Commonwealth - 4th - 2:12.10

1987 London - 2:12.32

At NY

http://www.juanjosemartinez.com.mx/NYC1983.html

and Rotterdam. video

http://www.juanjosemartinez.com.mx/rotterdam83.html

Graham:

https://postimg.org/image/432gtewxn/

In the years since this thread appeared and now, a friend sent me a photocopy of an article about John Graham. I don't know the magazine. I'd guess it's British but there's a paragraph in it that really jumps out and here it is:

"...John also spent a year with Tony Staynings and Dave Mirphyat Western Kentucky University in the USA where he recalls running 'race after race'on the college circuit and being asked to take drugs to improve performance."

And then the article moves on to other things and just lets that paragraph hang, as I also will do.

I wonder if the 70s collegiate runners would comment on that?

Virgin, Malmo, Hodgie-san, others, any inside information or rumors form those days?

I've got the complete magazine with the image I posted from it earlier today, and I don't see that copy in it. What magazine are you looking at, and/or what is the date?

Also, who else was at Western Kentucky during that time?

Mag holder wrote:

I've got the complete magazine with the image I posted from it earlier today, and I don't see that copy in it. What magazine are you looking at, and/or what is the date?

Also, who else was at Western Kentucky during that time?

As I said, I got a photocopy of the article from a friend. I have one page. That's it. I don't know what magazine it's from, what year, anything more. I had not known that Graham spent any time at WKU though we all knew they'd brought in very good guys from the UK. Nick Rose is the only other name I can recall from that time though I think there were one or two more Brits there.

Mag holder wrote:

I've got the complete magazine with the image I posted from it earlier today, and I don't see that copy in it. What magazine are you looking at, and/or what is the date?

Also, who else was at Western Kentucky during that time?

Nick Rose. Rose attended Western Kentucky University from 1972-1976

Chris Ridler and Dave Long were the other two Brits. Here's an article with the '74 WKU roster. No mention of Graham:

http://www.wkusports.com/sports/c-xc/spec-rel/100114aaa.html

Mag holder wrote:

I've got the complete magazine with the image I posted from it earlier today, and I don't see that copy in it. What magazine are you looking at, and/or what is the date?

Also, who else was at Western Kentucky during that time?

I just found my copy of the article. Fairly certain it isn't in the story you have. I was in the UK in the early 80s and got about every running magazine I could. I think this article HRE refers to is around 1982.

1980 Spanish Athletics Championships Laredo, Spain 1st Marathon 2:13:21

1980 Nike OTC Marathon Eugene, Oregon 8th Marathon 2:15:04

1980 New York City Marathon New York City, United States 3rd Marathon 2:11:46

1981 Rotterdam Marathon Rotterdam, Netherlands 1st Marathon 2:09:28

1982 AAA Gateshead Marathon Gateshead, United Kingdom 4th Marathon 2:15:14

1982 Commonwealth Games Brisbane, Australia 4th Marathon 2:13:04

1983 New York City Marathon New York City, United States 5th Marathon 2:10:57

1984 London Marathon London, United Kingdom 11th Marathon 2:14:40

1985 Rotterdam Marathon Rotterdam, Netherlands 2nd Marathon 2:09:58

1985 Chicago Marathon Chicago, United States 12th Marathon 2:12:55

1986 Rotterdam Marathon Rotterdam, Netherlands 6th Marathon 2:13:42

1986 Commonwealth Games Edinburgh, Scotland 4th Marathon 2:12:10

1987 London Marathon London, United Kingdom 11th Marathon 2:12:32

Sir Bastion Newbold wrote:

1980 Spanish Athletics Championships Laredo, Spain 1st Marathon 2:13:21

1980 Nike OTC Marathon Eugene, Oregon 8th Marathon 2:15:04

1980 New York City Marathon New York City, United States 3rd Marathon 2:11:46

1981 Rotterdam Marathon Rotterdam, Netherlands 1st Marathon 2:09:28

1982 AAA Gateshead Marathon Gateshead, United Kingdom 4th Marathon 2:15:14

1982 Commonwealth Games Brisbane, Australia 4th Marathon 2:13:04

1983 New York City Marathon New York City, United States 5th Marathon 2:10:57

1984 London Marathon London, United Kingdom 11th Marathon 2:14:40

1985 Rotterdam Marathon Rotterdam, Netherlands 2nd Marathon 2:09:58

1985 Chicago Marathon Chicago, United States 12th Marathon 2:12:55

1986 Rotterdam Marathon Rotterdam, Netherlands 6th Marathon 2:13:42

1986 Commonwealth Games Edinburgh, Scotland 4th Marathon 2:12:10

1987 London Marathon London, United Kingdom 11th Marathon 2:12:32

Kudos for your research skills Sir Bastion Newbould. Many thanks for this. John Graham would’ve been a 207 Marathon runner with today’s shoes at least, probably.

If my memory serves me well, then the following is accurate: John Graham would eat a big meal often before training. I could be wrong, but I remember something along the lines of him wanting food in his stomach when he trained, maybe even ham. It sounded a bit different but who knows?