Flat & fast halves and marathons

Bakersfield, CA. Half Marathon. Held during the winter months if I recall, would attract some big names looking to blast a fast 1/2 on those flat country roads in temperate weather in a low key race.

Bump. I'm looking for some really fast full 'thons and half mary's in 2010. A list would be great.

thons with tude wrote:

Bump. I'm looking for some really fast full 'thons and half mary's in 2010. A list would be great.

I assume you'll be running them in about 3 hours (for the "half mary's" that is) with your ipod, fanny pack, Gu belt, and gps in tow?

Really man. "full thons?" "half mary's?"

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i know im a dick wrote:

thons with tude wrote:

Bump. I'm looking for some really fast full 'thons and half mary's in 2010. A list would be great.

I assume you'll be running them in about 3 hours (for the "half mary's" that is) with your ipod, fanny pack, Gu belt, and gps in tow?

Really man. "full thons?" "half mary's?"

What's with the tude man? I don't use a fanny pack. Too many running snob's on this bored.

thons with tude wrote:

i know im a dick wrote:

I assume you'll be running them in about 3 hours (for the "half mary's" that is) with your ipod, fanny pack, Gu belt, and gps in tow?

Really man. "full thons?" "half mary's?"

What's with the tude man? I don't use a fanny pack. Too many running snob's on this bored.

Sorry dude, but I've been having a rough time training lately. I've been really on edge. I think it's my coffee.

From ARRS.net:

"Values shown for each marathon are calculated based on the elite runner's performances. For mixed races, the men's and women's RTB values are averaged. The values are given in seconds and represent how much faster (negative values) or slower (positive values) an elite runner would be expected to run at each race."

-80.0 Milano (ITA)

-72.0 Austin (TX/USA)

-67.8 Rome (ITA)

-67.2 Berlin (GER)

-66.9 Paris (FRA)

-62.8 Seoul International (KOR)

-57.3 Rotterdam (NED)

-55.5 Hamburg (GER)

-52.6 Turin (ITA)

-47.5 Italia (Carpi ITA)

-43.7 Amsterdam (NED)

-37.5 Dubai (UAE)

-36.6 Marrakech (MAR)

-35.5 Ottawa (ON/CAN)

-33.0 Beppu-Oita (JPN)

-32.6 Fukuoka (JPN)

-31.2 Tokyo International (JPN)

-30.4 Zurich (SUI)

-28.7 London (ENG)

-26.0 Beijing (CHN)

-23.5 Osaka Women's (JPN)

-18.3 California Int'l (Sacramento CA/USA)

-14.0 Eindhoven (NED)

-12.3 Reggio Emilia (ITA)

-11.7 Biwa-ko (Otsu JPN)

-9.8 Las Vegas (NV/USA)

-6.5 Grandma's (Duluth MN/USA)

-5.8 Prague (CZE)

-4.1 Venice (ITA)

-3.2 Philadelphia (PA/USA)

Note that it doesn't say the courses are fast, just that top pros run on average faster than would have been expected by the amounts listed. Pacemakers could be among the reasons.

Chicago is at +2.0 (essentially neutral), Boston is at +6.3, and New York is at +43.1. For comparison, Honolulu is at +171.3.

thons with tude wrote:

What's with the tude man? I don't use a fanny pack. Too many running snob's on this bored.

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I ran a 3:08 at the Honolulu marathon. What would my time have been on a fast course?

It depends. Do you run your "thons" with "tude" ? You need tude, man.

can I buy a consonant? wrote:

It depends. Do you run your "thons" with "tude" ? You need tude, man.

I do run with tude, I just don't need any from people on a massage bored.

I know! I could tell you run with 'tude! Cause you say words like "tude" and "thons"!

You got the lingo and you got the 'tude, dude!

jsquire provides a nice list. I was going to recommend California International Marathon which is a straight shot and net down hill. The only problem there is it is usually run in December when the weather can be bad. I've run it twice; once in great weather and once in freezing rain.

[quote]jsquire wrote:

From ARRS.net:

"Values shown for each marathon are calculated based on the elite runner's performances. For mixed races, the men's and women's RTB values are averaged. The values are given in seconds and represent how much faster (negative values) or slower (positive values) an elite runner would be expected to run at each race."

-72.0 Austin (TX/USA)

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Not anymore. The course has been changed to a loop course that has numerous hills throughout and a big climb the first few mi and to get to mi 18. It is now considered a +3 min course for elites.

Houston and San Antonio are flat and fast. Houston is sold out. San Antonio has the potential for warm weather (although last year was @45 degrees and absolutely perfect).