What is Happening at Stanford? Ostberg and Ratcliffe have entered the tranfer portal

She was being interviewed for an article by Stanford's own sports information. Of course she is going to say a couple nice things. That doesn't prove or disprove anything.

not a farmer wrote:

Hmm, seems like things aren't great on the farm. Remember the days would Stanford athletes would stick around for their fifth year?

People stayed for 5th years when it wasn't so "cool" and easy to transfer. Kids these days are flakes. Not these kids-- they obviously just followed their coach, which happens all the time-- but more people are just flakes.

As an outsider it seems that Santos is the obvious problem. When I first heard that Stanford was hiring him I questioned the decision.

He's going from Iona, one of the worst schools in the country (academically), to Stanford, one of the best schools in the world. I honestly do not understand why Stanford chose this guy of all people. He also relied heavily on international students at Iona, which isn't really compatible with the admissions process of a highly selective school like Stanford.

Just look at how much talent he's ruined at Iona too.

My teammates are friends with Ratcliffe and they said the reason people are transferring is they don't like the coach. The training is too taxing and it leaves them burnt out on race day.

I believe it. I knew some guys in high school who ran for Iona with Santos. Super talented, barely lasted a year before they got injured and burnt out. Those guys don't run anymore, sad really.

Something very fishy here. I get that they may follow the coach that recruited them. How did they know Miltenburg had money? Ratcliffe asked to not be contacted. In other words, he knew where he was going before he was allowed to be contacted. The portal was supposed to stop coaches from poaching. Another miss by the NCAA. Cheaters cheat.

Trojan Horse wrote:

Something very fishy here. I get that they may follow the coach that recruited them. How did they know Miltenburg had money? Ratcliffe asked to not be contacted. In other words, he knew where he was going before he was allowed to be contacted. The portal was supposed to stop coaches from poaching. Another miss by the NCAA. Cheaters cheat.

Most would gladly pay full tuition just to get away from JJ Clark and Santos

Trojan Horse wrote:

Something very fishy here. I get that they may follow the coach that recruited them. How did they know Miltenburg had money? Ratcliffe asked to not be contacted. In other words, he knew where he was going before he was allowed to be contacted. The portal was supposed to stop coaches from poaching. Another miss by the NCAA. Cheaters cheat.

When it's time to enter the portal, you typically speak to your compliance office. If you know where you want to go, you get permission to speak to other schools. You can tell compliance that you do not want to be contacted, but you are still able to speak to whatever school you want. Nothing fishy here. The "no contact" tag on a profile in the portal is simply so other coaches don't start emailing, which is typical to see when they're graduate school transfers.

Santos previously coached at Harvard so has experience at a top academic institution. He experienced more success at Iona than failure and to think anything other than that shows nothing but a lack of research on your part, again. You don’t like him? Fine, just have some valid points to support your argument rather than just throwing out things that are blatantly wrong and take less than 10 minutes of internet sleuthing to counter.

show your working wrote:

Santos previously coached at Harvard so has experience at a top academic institution. He experienced more success at Iona than failure and to think anything other than that shows nothing but a lack of research on your part, again. You don’t like him? Fine, just have some valid points to support your argument rather than just throwing out things that are blatantly wrong and take less than 10 minutes of internet sleuthing to counter.

For the record his pro group failed miserably.

Now if only Starcher will leave and come to wvu the world would make since again lol.

Seriously tho this is nothing unusual if they have a new coach. The first thing new coaches do is take stock and what they have, run off some people they don't want there for talent or culture building reasons, then they hit the recruiting trial. Nothing to see here.

The guy is going to ruin Stanford! He’ll never do better than the Milt.

Fiona O'Keeffe, Donaghu, and Lawson finished 1-2-3 at the Pac-12 Cross Country Championships, helping Stanford to its first women's conference title in nine years. Donaghu took eighth at the NCAA Cross Country Championships to pace Stanford to third, its highest team finish in seven years.

Why would her going to WVU make a difference with what is happening? She may not be the top recruit but a 4:38 mile as a junior isn't too shabby.

wrongUNC wrote:

The guy is going to ruin Stanford! He’ll never do better than the Milt.

Fiona O'Keeffe, Donaghu, and Lawson finished 1-2-3 at the Pac-12 Cross Country Championships, helping Stanford to its first women's conference title in nine years. Donaghu took eighth at the NCAA Cross Country Championships to pace Stanford to third, its highest team finish in seven years.

Are you going to pretend Milt didn't leave him a STACKED team?

Aragon - 4:09 1500 (4th in NCAA in 2018), 9:01 3k, 19:28 6k PR, 38th at NCAAs in 2016 + 67th at 2017 NCAAs

Donaghu - 4:11 in the 1500 (6th in NCAA) and 69th at NCAAs in 2017 (did not compete in 2018)

Lawson - 4:11 in 1500 (10th in NCAA), 15:50 5k, and 44th at NCAAs in 2018

O'Keeffe - 15:31 5k (3rd indoors and 7th outdoors), 8:58 3k, 13th at NCAAs in 2017 + 17th at NCAAs in 2018

Abi Archer - 10th at Nike Cross Nationals

Heymach - 4:17 1500 and 96th at 2018 NCAAs

Oakes - 4:18/16:14, 115th at 2018 NCAAs

DeBalsi - 9:55 2 mile in high school

Fahy - 25th at Foot Locker, California state champion in XC and 3200

Why graduate from Stanford when you can graduate from UNC?

/sarcasm

Milt and every Stanford coach before him

and after him will be able to recruit elite middle distance and distance women. What separates each coach is how they do at championship meets.

I agree, Coach Milt left the women's team in fantastic shape and if he was still their coach, I honestly think that the team could've been in contention for NCAA titles in the upcoming year (without all this coronavirus obviously). I'm concerned about the future of the team. Christina Aragon dropped to 195th place at 2019 NCAA XC? Matt Rizzo is transferring after not even a whole indoor season?

kingojamin wrote:

Why graduate from Stanford when you can graduate from UNC?

/sarcasm

Why is everyone making such a big deal of this? Ratcliffe ran 4:01 in HS in 2016. That means he should graduate this year. So both are grad transfers.

I'm just surprised Lananna hasn't landed any of these recruits? Does UVA not accept grad transfers? We all know UNC will pretty much let athletes do whatever when it comes to academics.

Who did Lananna get during his first year at UVA?