If this virus is so darn deadly, where are the dead celebrities?

Celebrities are not people we have never heard of.

Who are these people?

Bullet_Proof wrote:

Coevett wrote:

In the UK there have been several ex-footballers die of it, I think.

And a popular comedian from the 70's, who was obviously on death's door, but because they found the virus in him, he died of the virus.

https://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-52136768

You mean ex-soccer players?

He means ex soccer players we have never heard of.

trumpmakesfoolsofsupporters wrote:

Celebrity deaths are your basis for determining if this virus is serious or not?

Yes, let's be realistic: This is how *most* of us are going to consider the virus serious.

When Rock Hudson died of AIDS, that was what brought the disease home to millions of Americans--because they felt like someone they knew had died. If you don't get that feeling, that sense of *personally* losing someone, the disease is just less likely to seem real to you.

I remember asking myself a few weeks ago, "Where is COVID-19's Rock Hudson?" I don't need a Rock Hudson--personal acquaintances have sickened and died from the disease--but until/unless it kills someone who's really widely known in American popular culture, it's just not going to seem like a true threat. That's just how people are.

As it happens, I thought losing Terrence McNally was huge, but not a lot of Americans are tuned into playwrights. And I may have given his death even more weight because he lived on my block.

It's not that deadly but 'moderately deadly' is still bad. I think the main fear factor though is that it's contagious with lots of asymptomatic carriers, even those who are going to have the worst symptoms appear 'normal' for up to two weeks. And there's no effective treatment.

What I don't understand is why such a big fuss was made of 'flattening the curve' and shutting the whole world down if there's no effective treatment anyway. People who get on ventilators still die, very few exceptions to that. Could stay home and avoid infecting doctors. Sweden and Belarus are not drowning in corpses. Maybe washing hands and limiting social interaction would've actually been enough.

Corona Death? wrote:

trumpmakesfoolsofsupporters wrote:

This is one of the dumbest threads. True trump supporters seem really stupid as reflected in this post.

Celebrity deaths are your basis for determining if this virus is serious or not?

This has been marketed as the New Black Plague, 1918 Flu Pandemic 2.0, End Times 2020 etc.. But I know of nobody personally or second-hand(I only know a few thousand people though) so I thought maybe I missed someone. Apparently not.

+1

Don't know of anyone personally or even second hand.

Keith Richards and Charlie Sheen are still with us and if they're not high risk...

I live in (supposedly) one of the worst hit areas on the planet being in the UK. Have a pretty wide social circle of personal and online acquaintances. Haven't known, or even heard of, a single person who's even had a cough. And I should mention that I work with the elderly as a carer.

The only celebrities I know who've had it have all had no symptoms or very mild symptoms, with the exception of Boris Johnson if you're to believe the media.

Corona Death? wrote:

Months in, and I haven't even heard of anyone remotely well-known to have died from it. WHO did I miss? Maybe Epstein was an early victim...he was into all that sketchy shite.

Ya nailed it. Just because the virus hasn't been killing "important" people it's probably not even real.

Maybe, just maybe, access to health care matters during a global pandemic? But cool thread bro.

[quote]Just Some Jogger wrote:

I live in (supposedly) one of the worst hit areas on the planet being in the UK. Have a pretty wide social circle of personal and online acquaintances. Haven't known, or even heard of, a single person who's even had a cough. And I should mention that I work with the elderly as a carer.

I also live in what is called the 2nd worst hit town in the "hot" state of Massachusetts. More than two months into this "pandemic" and also know of nobody who has been sick with these symptoms except yesterday my neighbor told me his son in law had been sick with it for over two weeks but stayed home and was not recovered.

Meanwhile during the same two months lost one friend and one neighbor to cancer and four your folks to drug overdoses.

NERunner053 wrote:

Corona Death? wrote:

Months in, and I haven't even heard of anyone remotely well-known to have died from it. WHO did I miss? Maybe Epstein was an early victim...he was into all that sketchy shite.

Ya nailed it. Just because the virus hasn't been killing "important" people it's probably not even real.

Maybe, just maybe, access to health care matters during a global pandemic? But cool thread bro.

Believe what the powers that be tell you in their media, ignore personal experience.

Now you're thinking.

It is contagious. It can kill you with preexisting conditions. However, it’s not the mortality rate of the Spanish Flu.

Keep certain hotspots like NY and NJ closed. Approximately 20,000 deaths in those states. Nearly 13K in NYC alone.

In the greater Tampa Bay Area of 2.8 million people, there are 50 deaths. This is an area of retirees. People ridicule FL, yet people are moving here and escaping the high tax liberal states. I think the recent actions to begin to intelligently reopen is great. I’m not at all concerned about COVID personally since I’m healthy, and I distance from my parents and others that could be higher risk.

I don’t think it’s a hoax, but it is blown way out of proportion by the media.

Mein Gott wrote:

I also live in what is called the 2nd worst hit town in the "hot" state of Massachusetts. More than two months into this "pandemic" and also know of nobody who has been sick with these symptoms except yesterday my neighbor told me his son in law had been sick with it for over two weeks but stayed home and was not recovered.

Meanwhile during the same two months lost one friend and one neighbor to cancer and four your folks to drug overdoses.

Hi Corey. Why the constant string of different usernames?

Of course trump lost a personal friend, an elderly billionaire real-estate developer in Manhattan. He’s talked about it. Trumpanzees forget the party line, it’s so contradictory.

So your criterion for truth is whether it happened to a celebrity? Hilariously there isn't even any definition of what constitutes a celebrity. Someone can be a household name in one country and completely unknown in another.

The virus only kills elderly unhealthy people. Celebrities are wealthy and typically of normal weight. End of story.

Talent beats training wrote:

The virus only kills elderly unhealthy people.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Good one!

Talent beats training wrote:

The virus only kills elderly unhealthy people. Celebrities are wealthy and typically of normal weight. End of story.

Falsified

The virus isnt so deadly but it is easy to get. Since most people are asymptomatic they wont be tested. Eventually we'll find out that most of us have been exposed.

Regarding celebrities not dying, they're not quarantining in small apartments with many others. They're not forced to go shopping often and they probably don't take mass transit. More broadway actors in NYC have gotten it in than television actors in LA. no doubt because of the reasons above.

Talent beats training wrote:

The virus only kills elderly unhealthy people. Celebrities are wealthy and typically of normal weight. End of story.

What about that Nick Cordero guy who had his leg amputated from complications? He’s early 40s and thin. I hadn’t heard of him prior to this but he is an actor

Rainy Day wrote:

It is contagious. It can kill you with preexisting conditions. However, it’s not the mortality rate of the Spanish Flu.

Keep certain hotspots like NY and NJ closed. Approximately 20,000 deaths in those states. Nearly 13K in NYC alone.

In the greater Tampa Bay Area of 2.8 million people, there are 50 deaths. This is an area of retirees. People ridicule FL, yet people are moving here and escaping the high tax liberal states. I think the recent actions to begin to intelligently reopen is great. I’m not at all concerned about COVID personally since I’m healthy, and I distance from my parents and others that could be higher risk.

I don’t think it’s a hoax, but it is blown way out of proportion by the media.

It wasn't a hoax (!!) and it wasn't blown way out of proportion by the media. Certain hotspots such as New York (not just the city, but Rockland and Westchester), NJ, and NOLA, have indeed been significantly worse than other areas. Nursing homes and meat-packing plants around the country, in rural areas (the plants) as well as in urban areas, have been particularly hard hit. It's easy to find stories about young people with no preexisting conditions who have died.

We haven't had a seasonal flu that killed 30K people in a month since the Spanish flu. COVID-19 has been very hard to get a handle on. The mortality rate isn't particularly high, but it's highly contagious--much more contagious than flu--and, unlike flu, the virus sheds before symptoms are visible.

Then there are the corpses rotting in trailers outside nursing homes, funeral homes, and the occasional morgue in NYC because so many people died so quickly.

InItaly, which has a higher percentage of old folks, and specifically in Lombardia, the asymptotic rise in deaths overwhelmed the healthcare system. That began to happen in NYC as well.

It took a long time for the president to actually become convinced that the situation needed to be taken seriously. You know what pushed him over the edge? When the NBA cancelled the remainder of the season on March 11, followed the next day by pretty much every other team and league in pro and collegiate sports. Here's the timeline; scroll down to the bottom:

Trump declared a national emergency on March 13. He followed rather than leading.

The COVID-19 story is a huge story. It's the biggest story of our time. The media didn't make it up. I consume a lot of media: center and left, mostly, but I frequently make forays into the right. I pay a lot of attention to what scientists are saying. Trump has done a good thing by bringing on Fauci and Birx; it's the only good thing he's done vis a vis coronavirus, as far as I'm concerned. But he has done that, and Fauci in particular has gently but insistently tried to get everybody to see this situation the way scientists do, with humility and a desire to discover and speak truth in an evolving situation.

It's fine to remain skeptical. I'm skeptical. Critical thinking is good. But those in this thread who try to convince us that there's no there here [sic] are idiots, frankly. Grow up, kids.