Nick Bare 5k Time Trial Video at 196lbs. Claims "18:29".

moron wrote:

Canon1 wrote:

It is safe to guess that anyone bigger than Eugene Sandow is on steroids/gh and all the rest. How can someone have 20-30lbs of solid muscle more than the best bodybuilder in the world before steroids were invented and claim natural is beyond me.

Because there was only one body builder in the world then moron.

Yep. I mean... it’s not like there have been any changes in nutrition or exercise science between then and now.

I ran a 18:18 solo TT on the track at age 44 when I was 195 lbs. Are we supposed to be impressed by this guy? Like he did something amazing? Dude didn't even run a full 5k.

I don't think it's a question of being impressed. OP seemed to think it was impossible for this guy to run the time his did which is ridiculous.

Fake Rock Start wrote:

I ran a 18:18 solo TT on the track at age 44 when I was 195 lbs. Are we supposed to be impressed by this guy? Like he did something amazing? Dude didn't even run a full 5k.

OP and most of the slow skinny runners of letsrun can’t comprehend the idea that a bigger dude can run faster than them.

I find this very believable. I used to run local 5ks back in my prime. One summer this college aged kid started showing up. Big dude just like Nick. First 5k he did was low 20s. By the end of the summer he was running low 18s. I talked to him one day and he said he was playing lacrosse in college and wanted to work on his fitness this summer so he started doing long runs everyday. If I had to ballpark him I'd say he was 6'2 195. Maybe even 200. Guy wasn't nearly as cut as Nick.

And for what it's worth I got a friend who is 5'10" 180 with a small belly and he can run 16:30. Some people are just natural built distance runners.

Good job! I don’t think the weight was really a hinderance for this guy, he seems to be very fit overall. He won’t be breaking 15 built like that but 1:29 per lap is both believable and a good personal accomplishment.

I’m 6-5 and 205. I’ve ran 16:17 at 37.

former d1 bench player wrote:

he ran a 5:14 mile on the track a couple of weeks ago. i find this believable

i think threads like this really expose the fragile egos of people who work really hard at running but can't comprehend that other people might be more talented than them. like 5:14 is not a particularly impressive time, is it that hard to believe that this guy could run that?

Is it hard to believe that someone with the talent to pass the Army Ranger courses could do this? The guy is clearly naturally gifted at athletics. Chris Solinsky ran sub 14 at 160 right? Not hard to believe this guy could run 4 minutes slower at 30 lbs heavier.

He has great form. I believe his times.

Alan Webb was more jacked than the typical elite high school distance runner. People forget that.

I hope he breaks 5. in the mile. I think he can do it.

This is hilarious. Nick Bare realizes there are a zillion buff bros putting out buff bro youtube content. He tosses up a running video and it goes viral after it pisses off letsrunners. Now he is making a good living posting running videos when he isn't even supposed to be a runner.

He was never lying about his running ability. He is just a noob who is experiencing noob gains in a new sport. It is really quite fascinating. He needs to be careful though. Letsrun nation might start a 1000 page thread about him if he keeps it up.

Nick is truly other worldly. He's more gifted than others but dude trains his butt off based on what I see and he take recovery just as seriously. If you look at his 5k percentile it's super impressive. He's faster than 99% of people his age and 94% percent overall. If anyone can't respect that man you should check your ego. You're a joke!!!!

Curtis83 wrote:

Nick is truly other worldly. He's more gifted than others but dude trains his butt off based on what I see and he take recovery just as seriously. If you look at his 5k percentile it's super impressive. He's faster than 99% of people his age and 94% percent overall. If anyone can't respect that man you should check your ego. You're a joke!!!!

He still looks like he smells sweaty.

Rhodium Nights wrote:

Hourunner wrote:

He has very little body fat to burn and muscle isnt easy to lose. I come from a weightlifting background and from experience mass is hard to lose especially if you’re still lifting which he is.

What if he stopped lifting heavy and just switched to body weight exercises like pullups and pushups? I have a feeling he would drop weight quickly if he did that? But I'm not a lifter so I don't have a lot of firsthand experience with that world.

And he probably doesn't want to stop lifting I suppose.

I don’t think you understand lifting and muscle growth etc.

He's juicing and fitness is his life. He's a stone cold loser (as Trump would say).

ThatAverageRunner wrote:

Rhodium Nights wrote:

What if he stopped lifting heavy and just switched to body weight exercises like pullups and pushups? I have a feeling he would drop weight quickly if he did that? But I'm not a lifter so I don't have a lot of firsthand experience with that world.

And he probably doesn't want to stop lifting I suppose.

I don’t think you understand lifting and muscle growth etc.

He made the swap to mostly bodyweight training after his most recent marathon. It's also not going to make much of a difference. If he's still training those muscles hard (a lot of pushups/pullups), they're not gonna shrink much if at all. It's a matter of diet, which is a big component of his problem - he does this to promote his brand, so he can't exactly cut out the massive amount of protein powder he eats daily...it would be a bad look to have to stop using your own products to achieve your goals.

He's 6'/194lb right now. If he gets to 185 and stays healthy I give him a shot at sub-3hr in one of his next 1-3 marathons.

coachcommentsnicely wrote:

moron wrote:

Because there was only one body builder in the world then moron.

Yep. I mean... it’s not like there have been any changes in nutrition or exercise science between then and now.

You are so naive if you believe you can get bigger than Sandow was naturally, try it for 10 years then come back, I promise you won't even look as good as Sandow unless you have elite genetics. The only "naturals" who "look" bigger than him are carrying way more fat.