A usual dumb workout is to do hard hills in the immediate run-up of a race....
A usual dumb workout is to do hard hills in the immediate run-up of a race....
Sex with my mom's cleaning woman before a track meet.
5x400 wrote:
Middle of April - coach assigned 5x400. I asked how fast and how much rest. Coach responded “fast and as much as you need”
53-52-53-52-52 with 8 minutes rest. I was a 3:53/1:54 guy and fried the rest of the season.
I don’t know, that seems like a very good speed endurance workout. It would definitely require easy training for a few days afterward. Maybe your coach didn’t allow for that?
There are no dumb workouts just dumb people.
11th grade the Monday before XC states, I ran 5 x mile 5:02-5:05 on the road. Achilles flares up with 1/4 mile to go on number 5. Couldn’t run until Thursday. If I had a good coach....#1 I would not have done that workout...and 2. I would have seen it as a blessing and went into the race on Saturday more confident. InsteadI felt unprepared because I had to take 3 days off, when the rest was probably what I really needed. Resulting in a lack luster race.
robert678 wrote:
steroids wrote:
Best one so far.
Honorable mentions to the weightlifting circuit of only heavy leg lifts and 10 workouts / meets in 2 weeks.
I have another one, but from a different friend. He spent the night at a friend's house. The next morning he woke up to find that it was 10 degrees, strong winds, and snowing outside. He still wanted to go for a run, and his friend decided to bet him $20 that he wouldn't do 10 miles in under 70 minutes outside shirtless in short shorts. My friend gets back from the run with the Garmin paused at 10.00 miles as proof. He's freezing so immediately heads to take a warm shower, but soon finds out his friend turned off the hot water. When he comes out of the shower he finds his clothes missing and his friend tells them he threw them outside. As he heads outside in nothing but a towel around his waist, his friend yanks the towel off and slams the door shut and locks it, then tells my friend he lied about throwing his clothes outside. After 30 minutes of freezing outside buck naked, he finally lets my friend back inside and greets him with a snowball to the face.
My friend never hung out with that kid again, He also never got his $20 for winning the bet.
That is the worst thing ever. I would have been sorely tempted to greet that “friend” with a punch to the face. Not saying that’s right, but that would have been my temptation.
It's a tie. My hs coach once had the whole distance crew run a 2 mile TT. Then, he gave us like 5 min and told us to do it again but get a better time. He wanted 10-20% improvement. It is worth noting that we did a workout (in liue if easy runs) almost every day; so we were already quite tired.
Also, in XC season once, my hs coach had us run a 5K on a local XC course, and he wanted us to run about 30 sec slower than our PR. Then, we jogged a bit and he had us do another 5k on the course at an all out effort. Despite all the hard efforts, we were a very low-mileage team (because the coach thought doing "long, slow runs" made you slow). So, this ended up being one of longest days of the year for the majority of the year.
The coach meant well and worked hard. He just thought he was above any need to learn about the sport.
I don’t see how this is a bad workout.. it’s just sharpening and maintaining anaerobic condition for the big race. Makes perfect sense to me
This actually sounds EXACTLY like my XC coach. He made everyone do 2mi “thresholds” which, doesn’t actually make sense because you can’t accrue enough lactic acid for it to be a threshold... and then had us rest 5 min and do it again. The best guys did it x3. I can tell you they had NOTHING left by the end. And he was like “better be faster.” Never understood why he didn’t just have us do a 20-25 min tempo lol. Another time we did, if I remember correctly, a 3 mi all out as a “warmup” then got back on the track with no rest and did 6x300m with a 100m jog...Almost every other training day was some kind of speed work. He’s gonna burnout all the kids who listen to him before they even make it to college. Too big of an ego.
quarantine day ?: ran 10 miles around my backyard. 204 laps, 0.05miles per lap.
This thread is fantastic. Kuduz to you Grade a Moran.
Where do I begin? I will start off and say any run I have done nursing a nagging injury. I regret all those.
In HS the varsity squad used to do a 6-8 mile out and back. Easy out, moderate effort back.
Then 4-8 x 800 at 5k pace with 3 min rest.
1 mile jog cool down.
We would start the season with 3-4 reps and peak at 7-8 several weeks later.
Our coach would at-least shorten the run a bit if we were slated to do more 5k reps, but it was still a tall task.
Looking back on it, i have no idea how I was able to do this from September thru October.
-HStu
This is so ridiculous but I don’t even care because it’s hilarious XD
midpackgirl wrote:
My club XC coach made us do 50 meter sprint repeats on the track in preparation for the 6k/8k.
So? If incorporated into a sound training program that's not a bad workout itself.
Now if that's all you did.
Two workouts I did over a 3 day span that resulted in season-ending Achilles tendinitis: 1) a Marathon at medium effort with last 5 at goal MP; 2) 5 x 2000 at 10k pace. I couldn't hold any reasonable pace in the workout, but figured it was OK since I wasn't too sore. Within a couple days, the Achilles flared up, then got worse and worse until I stopped running.
5x400 wrote:
Middle of April - coach assigned 5x400. I asked how fast and how much rest. Coach responded “fast and as much as you need”
53-52-53-52-52 with 8 minutes rest. I was a 3:53/1:54 guy and fried the rest of the season.
Splits, rest, and PRs all match up for that workout so unless you were coming off injury or had no base that shouldn't have ruined a season.
Did 8x200 @ 26-27 2 hours after an 800 race. This was when all those NOP post-race workout videos were popular. I woke up in the morning with a pulled hip flexor that left me injured for a week.
How does 5 quarters at 1:45 pace match up with a 1:54 guy? I'm not even sure how he physically completed this session.
Hall Pass wrote:
By the way, it seems that with maybe 2 exceptions (I could be forgetting 1) these were all the fault of a school-paid coach. I certainly have never given these clowns much respect and have always wondered why everyone else does. I never had the misfortune of crossing paths with my HS track coach but (just as was the case with plenty of you) I heard he was a footbal coach who needed a Spring gig and/or felt he should keep an eye on his football crowd off-season. I never did a colossally dumb workout. I feel like refusal to be coached by (or even talk to) school coaches solves a lot of problems!
Yes all school paid coaches everywhere suck :eyeroll:
This is classic gen z know it all trash... sounds like he wanted you to do 2x 2 mi w 5 min rest. A great workout, did it in college often. We qualified for NCAA's 2x and finished in the top 14 both years. I guess he doesn't read letsrun and know this isnt a letsrun approved 'threshold session'. Grow a pair. You're probably the same guy that spend 3hrs a day on the computer reading about workout plans and regularly underperforms in big meets because you get in your own head. I bet your mile Pr is 4:41 and you've never broken 18 for 5k.
Do sprints up a super steep hidden trail. I popped my popliteal muscle which I didn't know I had till I did this workout.
Charles Martel wrote:
How does 5 quarters at 1:45 pace match up with a 1:54 guy? I'm not even sure how he physically completed this session.
Well I guess it depends on the athlete. A runner with a 400 PR of 48 seconds more of an endurance guy for whom a 53 second 400 would be running his PR 5 times?
Since the poster ran even splits for workout I'd go with the former. Where the coach was wrong was just telling the athlete to run them "fast" with no context. Either you need to supervise that workout if you just say run them fast, or if unsupervised give a time to run each rep.