Calm the F**K Down! - What is wrong with everyone?

Corey Giles wrote:

Allen53 wrote:

The authoritarian censor is strong in this one.

You are fortunate that wejo and rojo are on your side and are more than willing for you to spread neo-nazi propoganda on their board.

I am now sending e-mails to sponsors of your posts. I can't imagine that having neonazi propaganda on their boards is good for their business.

Of course you can also cite real estate agents and anonymous "architects" that agree with you too.

Allen53 says he is a socialist, and I find it hard to side with socialists, but he does appear to support free speech. You and your ilk, throughout these threads? Not so much. Allen53 is making his case, and landing some shots, you want the russian judge (pun intended) to come and and save you.

WWRD wrote:

Allen53 says he is a socialist, and I find it hard to side with socialists, but he does appear to support free speech. You and your ilk, throughout these threads? Not so much. Allen53 is making his case, and landing some shots, you want the russian judge (pun intended) to come and and save you.

Oh, look, another person in favor of neonazi propaganda.

Don't worry the blojos are on your side.

I am a capitalist. I don't understand how this is good for their business, but apparently they have decided it is. Congratulations!

I am Sam wrote:

Facts Matter? wrote:

A) My post has nothing to do with sunlight and it's effect or lack of effect on the virus, it has to do with people no longer hiding in their houses in fear of contracting a not-that-deadly virus.

B) Only idiots with low IQs make assumptions like this.

You mean you were just being 'sarcastic' here?

Facts Matter? wrote:

The beaches in California are opening and people are out enjoying the sun. The REAL science is winning, not the pseudoscience of models and projections.

Yep...just like your leader then

The world is truly doomed, not because of the coronavirus, because of exponential stupidity like yours. Where does it say or did I suggest anything about sarcasm or Trump or virus killing light? Because I use the word "sun" and the president used the word "sun" somehow we are saying the same thing? Why don't you understand words? "The beaches in California are opening and people are out enjoying the sun." Those words could not be any more simple and clear. Everything with you is politically motivated. You cannot hear a single idea without attempting to spin it. Sometimes just going outside to enjoy the sun is just going outside to enjoy the sun. It's not that complicated. When you stop channeling the Sean Penn character in the move you took your name from, you will be better off. (If you can)

Thinking about it wrote:

Facts Matter? wrote:

A) My post has nothing to do with sunlight and it's effect or lack of effect on the virus, it has to do with people no longer hiding in their houses in fear of contracting a not-that-deadly virus.

Well, last time I checked, going to Bondi beach was pretty much the opposite of "hiding in one's house in fear of contracting a not-that-deadly virus", yet the official story in Sydney mentionned by I Am Sam is that most early cases were retraced to having spent time on that packed beach one particular day.

Apparently you don't know how to read either. The entire post has all the context you need, yet for whatever reason you still cannot understand it. That's unfortunate too, I had formed the opinion that you were one of the more reasonably educated and common sense oriented posters. I was clearly wrong.

People continue to make fun of Wigins and his lowball death estimate. Hilariously, his figure of 2600 will still be closer to the actual total than these insane chicken littles quoting millions. Thank God for him and Facts Matter.

https://swprs.org/a-swiss-doctor-on-covid-19/

Someone could argue intelligently that beaches and parks are just places for people to go to get outside, and being outside presents lower risk than inside. If people are responsible, keep their distance, avoid team sports, maybe use a mask, I think we now know opening beaches and parks would be a good idea. There are other things we now know are less risky, just like there are some things we know are more risky and should be avoided indefinitely.

But the problem has been that coronavirus deniers from the start haven't made intelligent arguments. They've argued that social distancing doesn't work and that we shouldn't limit the economy in any way. They've been proven completely wrong about how serious the disease is, but they keep insisting that they were right about what measures to take about it. Most of them have gone over to outright antivax/conspiracy/paranoid thinking that isn't worthy of a response, just mockery. As far as I can tell, Facts Matter hasn't done so, yet, but he's only a few days away from shutting up and admitting defeat.

[quote]who cooked the books wrote:

No credible evidence that case numbers and death rates are being manipulated.

Other than the fact that the number of flu and pneumonia deaths fell off the cliff coinciding with the arrive of the Covid19 deaths.

To me that is very credible evidence.

You wish!

61,001 would mean I was wrong about the number of COVID-19 deaths not surpassing the number of deaths from the 2017/2018 flu season. I would have no problem admitting I was wrong about that.However, most people actually get it and understand the point that HAS ALREADY been made. The death toll will be far less than projected. The death rate is much lower than was reported. Far more people were already infected before the lockdown even started and the entire strategy taken by this administration was unwarranted and destructive. There are only a few stragglers and contrarians that post here under multiple names that are fighting hard to DENY what the rest of the country is coming to accept as the truth. There is a much broader audience out there and they are listening.

He will never apologize, or shut up.

You are not fooling anyone. You should come clean and maybe people would respect you more. The cat and mouse game doesn’t make any sense.

https://twitter.com/swatlashoover?lang=en

Facts Matter? wrote:

You wish!

61,001 would mean I was wrong about the number of COVID-19 deaths not surpassing the number of deaths from the 2017/2018 flu season. I would have no problem admitting I was wrong about that.However, most people actually get it and understand the point that HAS ALREADY been made. The death toll will be far less than projected. The death rate is much lower than was reported. Far more people were already infected before the lockdown even started and the entire strategy taken by this administration was unwarranted and destructive. There are only a few stragglers and contrarians that post here under multiple names that are fighting hard to DENY what the rest of the country is coming to accept as the truth. There is a much broader audience out there and they are listening.

Amen! I would also be very happy if you would have been off by twice your projection, which still would have been 10 - 20x less than the experts!!

big dave222 wrote:

People continue to make fun of Wigins and his lowball death estimate. Hilariously, his figure of 2600 will still be closer to the actual total than these insane chicken littles quoting millions. Thank God for him and Facts Matter.

https://swprs.org/a-swiss-doctor-on-covid-19/

His figure was 2600 infections, not deaths. So he I guess would've predicted like 2.6 (.1% mortality) to 26 deaths. I think we can all agree that will not be closer than the experts that predicted 480,000 - 2.2M without any social distancing, indicating that we if took adequate measures the death count could be far lower.

Also the mistake people are making in their reasoning right now is that they think Facts Matter predicted 61,000 deaths. He didn't. He didn't make a prediction. He thought 61,001 was so far outside the realm of possibility that he set that as the number to "shut him up." Not the number that was 1 death over his prediction. His constant backpedaling trying to make his original post into something it wasn't is hilarious.

It'd be interesting to see the flu numbers if people took precautions, wore masks, worked from home, and overall social-distanced through the flu season. It would likely never approach the 60,000 figure.

You are incorrect as usual. It was ALWAYS my position that the coronavirus would not be more deadly than the flu. The 61,000 number is the highest recent flu death toll. It had nothing to do with me thinking it was "so far outside the realm of possibility." You are again a liar because you have now had this explained to you at least 4 times.

I did not expect New York to blow up like it did. I still don't know why and that should be the question that the experts are trying to solve, instead of keeping everyone else locked up when it's clear that they are not in danger.

As for what would happen if we socially distanced for the flu, Well, if 2.2 million deaths can become 60,000 as the administration wants us to believe, then 61,000 flu deaths should become 1,664 deaths. I've already asked this question as well. If social distancing works so well, we could have saved over 59,000 lives and we did nothing in 2017, 2018. Someone should have blood on their hands for that.

Giles Corey wrote:

the number of flu and pneumonia deaths fell off the cliff coinciding with the arrival of the Covid19 deaths.

To me that is very credible evidence.

Yes, not much has changed regarding regarding virus fatalities.

The big change has been with the great increase of fascism by global governments.

lol FM, yes you have explained to me the way in which you think you've weaseled out of your stupid original posts in retrospect 4 times. i do understand that you are now taking those positions, no need to explain again.

i did roll my eyes at "it was ALWAYS my position that the coronavirus would not be more deadly than the flu"

it is gonna pass the highest recent flu season on record, by your estimation, despite severe and draconian measures to contain it. it just takes on sentence to show how drastically wrong you were all along. don't even have to get in depth with it.

Where can I get paid to spot bs? I'd love to

Corey Giles wrote:

WWRD wrote:

Allen53 says he is a socialist, and I find it hard to side with socialists, but he does appear to support free speech. You and your ilk, throughout these threads? Not so much. Allen53 is making his case, and landing some shots, you want the russian judge (pun intended) to come and and save you.

Oh, look, another person in favor of neonazi propaganda.

Don't worry the blojos are on your side.

I am a capitalist. I don't understand how this is good for their business, but apparently they have decided it is. Congratulations!

Cue the name calling. Well you know, my dad can beat up your dad! What are you 12?

birdbeard wrote:

it is gonna pass the highest recent flu season on record, by your estimation, despite severe and draconian measures to contain it.

Yeah, ummm, NO!

You and the other DENIERS want to say that the death toll is low because of measures that were put in place too late to have any effect, were not followed by the majority of the public to have any effect, even if they did work (which they don't) and were not in effect long enough before the goalpost move to have any effect (again, if they worked, which they do not).

As it's been stated, even by your buddies that disagree with me, you CANNOT change the actual mortality rate of the virus with social distancing. Virtually everyone is now in agreement that the mortality rate is below .67% and anything lower than .67% would mean that more people would have had to be infected than there are people in the entire United States to reach a 2.2 million death toll. Yet, people STILL keep repeating that we would have had millions of deaths were it not for the social distancing. Impossible!

I may be wrong that it won't kill more than the 2017/2018 flu and I'm not dodging or ducking anything. I was absolutely right about everything else, including the main issue that you want to ignore: It's not that deadly, Calm The F**K Down! I know you hate that and you are going to try and spin that too, but those are still the facts. Three months ago I was crazy and I would be off by millions, 2 months ago I was delusional and would be off by a few hundred thousand, last month I was an idiot and would be off by tens of thousands. Now everyone has been sitting around for the last 2 weeks waiting for the 61,001 number so they can celebrate the moment when I am off by 1. You expect me to stand up and say what I was wrong about but you are a coward and won't admit to what I was right about. You and all your buddies are the true goalpost movers and you hate that everyone else gets it. People understand are listening and that's a good thing, because remember, #FactsMatter

Imagine that the highlight of your day is visiting a running forum and posting these screeds over and over again, howling into the abyss of trolls, 17:30 5k runners, and bored college kids.

Every time you click Post Reply do you think, "Yes, this is it! This is when I'll be vindicated. I'll show them all how smart I am!"