Is the CoronaVirus Actually Saving Lives Overall? Do Coro Precautions Reduce More Flu Deaths Than Die From Coro?

He did NOT say it was a hoax. More false information from the Left. You and your ilk are on another level of crazy

fake fake false wrote:

He did NOT say it was a hoax. More false information from the Left. You and your ilk are on another level of crazy

Lol “false information from the left”

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Stfu. The thread SHOULD go to show that, yes, some good may come out of this scare after all. Lower flu rates (by this high margin! ) will save lives. The most disturbing aspect of this thread is that Left seems upset about. Now that is a destructive illness to have.

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fake fake false wrote:

Stfu. The thread SHOULD go to show that, yes, some good may come out of this scare after all. Lower flu rates (by this high margin! ) will save lives. The most disturbing aspect of this thread is that Left seems upset about. Now that is a destructive illness to have.

Please report.

“The Left”

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Here is a good analysis from USATODAY that looks at what might happen if quarantine measures are not effective (quite honestly we won't know for 2-4 weeks what impact social distancing, travel bans and other measures are having):

https://www.usatoday.com/in-depth/news/investigations/2020/03/13/us-hospitals-overwhlemed-coronavirus-cases-result-in-too-few-beds/5002942002/

Giles Corey wrote:

Do you personally know anyone who has this virus, never mind died from it?

I've never even known anyone personally who's died from the flu.

The only people I've heard of dying from the flu have been either vaccinated and/or died being treated in hospitals.

fisky wrote:

A couple of weeks ago, I posted on LetsRun that the net result of the Coronavirus would be a REDUCTION in overall deaths because steps taken to prevent CoV would result in a dramatic decline in flu cases and deaths.

That trend is now visible. The number of new flu cases in the US peaked in mid-February and then plummeted by about 75%! You'd think someone in the media would talk about this... if only to point out that preventive steps work.

https://gis.cdc.gov/grasp/fluview/flu_by_age_virus.html

Maybe I missed it, but I don't recall anybody doing anything out of the ordinary with regard to CoV starting in mid-February, so tracing causation to CoV mitigation steps is a problem.

The CDC - Center for DISEASE CONTROL - has one job... control diseases! It seems to me that the CDC is borderline incompetent. They were unprepared for a novel pandemic. The hospital/ER protocols are set up for individuals, not a pandemic, and they have been really slow to change. They refused tests from WHO/China/Korea, thinking they could do it better and failed. It's been weeks and we're just now rolling out tests.

Who was that guy in charge of FEMA during Hurricane Katrina? Brown? The CDC head seems to be on a par of incompetence with that guy.

Even now, they seem to still be sending confusing messages to the public.

If this were The Apprentice, the head of the CDC would have been fired by now.

fisky wrote:

The CDC - Center for DISEASE CONTROL - has one job... control diseases! It seems to me that the CDC is borderline incompetent. They were unprepared for a novel pandemic. The hospital/ER protocols are set up for individuals, not a pandemic, and they have been really slow to change. They refused tests from WHO/China/Korea, thinking they could do it better and failed. It's been weeks and we're just now rolling out tests.

Who was that guy in charge of FEMA during Hurricane Katrina? Brown? The CDC head seems to be on a par of incompetence with that guy.

Even now, they seem to still be sending confusing messages to the public.

If this were The Apprentice, the head of the CDC would have been fired by now.

STFU

runfasta wrote:

We would need long term changes in habits to really have any changes in death rate other than corona. Think scientifically and use facts.

The same is true of corona v x

The only cure for corona v x is what we do personally and how we take care of ourselves.

wejo wrote:

I’m not out to arbitrate what people think about this one way or the other. Usually with discussion we get to a better place.

Hopefully so.

everyone here. wrote:

It’s not about where the numbers are NOW. It’s about where they’re going. THATS why measures need to be taken. Posts like yours are really really irresponsible and wreak of a personal and political agenda. Is what you’re saying based on the advice of the scientists? If no then STOP. You’re only going to get people sick bc they won’t take necessary precautionary measures bc “it’s just the flu, bro.”

Irrational deluded and ignorant people like YOU are the danger, not intelligent people who think for themselves.

You're running around like a chicken with it's head cut off - which isn't going to save you.

dunes runner wrote:

everyone here. wrote:

It’s not about where the numbers are NOW. It’s about where they’re going. THATS why measures need to be taken. Posts like yours are really really irresponsible and wreak of a personal and political agenda. Is what you’re saying based on the advice of the scientists? If no then STOP. You’re only going to get people sick bc they won’t take necessary precautionary measures bc “it’s just the flu, bro.”

Irrational deluded and ignorant people like YOU are the danger, not intelligent people who think for themselves.

You're running around like a chicken with it's head cut off - which isn't going to save you.

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dunes runner wrote:

non-hysterical response wrote:

If you look at 2019 weeks 9, 10, and 11 were peak flu season. So it appears corona virus mitigation is going to save several thousand lives who would have died from the normal flu.

What it actually shows is that corona virus IS the flu, nothing more nothing less, and that all the hysteria has been for nothing.

It’s NOT the flu.

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What facts does Letsrun want to make available during the COVID-19 national Emergency?

What misinformation does it want to prevent?

https://www.letsrun.com/forum/flat_read.php?thread=9897744#9897902

Acute Respiratory Distress Syndrome (ARDS) is the final “domino” in the cascade of a patient’s immune response to Covid 19…infection by the Corona Virus. ARDS is an immune mediated “Hypersensitivity” response to the invading virus. This is the immune mediated process which leads those genetically vulnerable individuals to require ICU ventilator care and potential death. No two people’s Immune systems respond in exactly the same way or to the exact same extent. Sort of like a “peanut allergy”; most people can eat peanuts and have zero immune response; but for a very few it is deadly. What we need is an immunologic (allergy) test like an allergen (skin) test to identify those individuals at greatest risk of having an overwhelming immune response to Covid 19 and isolate only those individuals. We can then let all those other people who “test negative” to a severe immune response simply get back to life as usual and possibly experience what would otherwise be symptomatology akin to the common cold. The “herd immunity” which comes after this (population based) wave of milder infection in the “pre-identified negative” general population would then benefit all those other people who were predetermined (test positive) to be at greatest risk. While all this is playing out, the population at greatest risk could mitigate their “test-positive” health risk by taking immune boosting supplements as well as self imposing isolation (which they would have great motivation to do.)

This Stanford researcher seems to think the reaction to the coronavirus is saving more lives than coronavirus is likely to take:

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/chinas-coronavirus-lockdown-curbs-deadly-pollution-likely-saving-the-lives-of-tens-of-thousands-says-researcher/ar-BB11keQQ?ocid=spartanntp