10 DAYS TO COLLAPSE, warns Tom Bossert former Homeland Security Advisor

You sandwiched 1 fact:

, between what you think is about to happen, or what you expect will happen.

If we believed you, the US death rate would be in the thousands by now. You were WRONG and now you are moving the goalposts yet again and saying it will be a few more days until it happens. How many "few more days" do you get before you get called out?

And if you look at the stock market then, it did something similar. Almost exactly 11 years from today, people were panicking about H1N1 (evidently people panic about viruses in March). On March 10, 2009 the DJIA dropped to 6,516.86. Where did it end the year? 10,428.05. Or 37.5% higher. If you would have bought then and sold today (even after this steep decline) you would have realized a 16% annual return on investment (plus whatever dividends you would have accumulated over that time assuming you were in a dividend paying fund that tracked the marked). If you sold when it was high, you would be closer to 24%. The market will recover from this.

joedirty wrote:

And if you look at the stock market then, it did something similar. Almost exactly 11 years from today, people were panicking about H1N1 (evidently people panic about viruses in March). On March 10, 2009 the DJIA dropped to 6,516.86. Where did it end the year? 10,428.05. Or 37.5% higher. If you would have bought then and sold today (even after this steep decline) you would have realized a 16% annual return on investment (plus whatever dividends you would have accumulated over that time assuming you were in a dividend paying fund that tracked the marked). If you sold when it was high, you would be closer to 24%. The market will recover from this.

I want you market bulls to prove you are acting in the same manner in which you type on letsrun. Show us that you are buying. I do not mean 10% of your income into your 401k. If you are bullish, show us you are Buying on Margin. Show us you are buying Option Calls on individual equities and Option Calls on S&P 500. Show us you believe this nonsense that you type on here.

The number of deaths in the US is still growing exponentially, and the growth rate is the highest in the world. No big deal, right?!

absolutely the same here and here we are and i'm at work okay

I invested $25k last week and another $100k this week. I intend to invest more in the near future and will save some money to buy real estate in the future. Heck, after the forced quarantines and closures are lifted, society will emerge from this healthier than it has been in a very long time. Enjoy the social distancing.

joedirty wrote:

Community transmission in equatorial and southern hemisphere countries has been fairly low.

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a number of countries have been able to control it effectively.

The vast majority of countries that it hit early on are just fine, including those that didn't lurch through chaotic government suppression attempts. Vietnam for example got it early and has barely over 100 cases and no deaths.

This is interesting because the lower latitudes are where the most people live, and also where the most infectious diseases are. Maybe it's less transmissible there due to the weather - or, maybe, the population is less vulnerable in the first place, with its individuals having been exposed on average to more similar pathogens.

Nobody knows how many human coronaviruses there are out there. The labs don't really start looking for them unless they are spurred by a significant outbreak. OC43 was discovered by researchers working after the SARS outbreak. Have they looked into whether it confers some immunity? Whether it does or not, there may be any number of other ones out there that do.

Another unfounded assumption is that sars-cov-2 originated in China merely because it was discovered there. In most countries affected now, it hasn't caused a Wuhan-level epidemic putting unusual stress on the health care systems. That could have been the case prior to its identification in Wuhan; maybe it has already been to Vietnam, but didn't cause enough trouble for anyone to bother identifying it.

stupidity killing wrote:

The number of deaths in the US is still growing exponentially, and the growth rate is the highest in the world. No big deal, right?!

500 deaths!!!!! That is some crazy exponential growth!!!!

Stop the economy!! Throw millions out of work!! Disrupt student’s lives!!

Because we care !!!!!! We are Democrats and we care!!!!

Daily NEW Cases In USA:

March 5: 63

March 6: 98

March 7: 116

March 8: 106

March 9: 163

March 10: 290

March 11: 307 (thread opens and Bad Wigins says, "only [total] 2600 cases 20 days from now")

March 12: 396

March 13: 550

March 14: 696

March 15: 737

March 16: 983

March 17: 1748

March 18: 2848

March 19: 4530

March 20: 5595

March 21: 4824

March 22: 9339

March 23: 10,168

Daily NEW cases is a LIE

People didn't just get infected on that day, they were already infected. What you are showing reflects new positive tests, not new infections. Superimpose the CDC testing data on that and you might understand.

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/images/lab-specimens-tested.jpg

You don't even merit a response. It'd be like arguing with a cucumber.

sp2 wrote:

You don't even merit a response. It'd be like arguing with a cucumber.

Code for:

I have absolutely no response.

Your doom & gloom predictions have not come true and now you conveniently have nothing to say...

Typical!

Something tells me that you are more than casually familiar with cucumbers!

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Golly, thanks, but since I am actually older than 16, I am familiar with the H1N1 outbreak in '09.

In fact, I appear to be much *more* familiar with it than you are, since most of what you're spouting about it is absolute nonsense.

It's a *really* stupid comparison to COVID-19. H1N1 turned out to be very much comparable to a seasonal flu in just about every way.

This one is *very* different. More transmissible, MUCH more deadly,... and there's no vaccine, and probably won't be for quite a while.

If you don't get that those two situations are in no way comparable, I guess that might explain why you've said so many other really dumb things here.

You clearly started out with a thesis --based on almost no actual facts-- and are trying *really* hard to convince yourself and others of it, using increasingly nonsensical arguments.

Maybe you really *did* invest a lot of money (usually, when guys here say stuff like that, they're just making it up, but maybe you're not), and that's why you're so desperate to rationalize that decision.

Good luck, man. I'd strongly suggest that when you're considering future decisions like this one, you attempt to think them through a LOT more carefully than you seem to have done here.

Just want to point out that there will be no encouraging news until any hard hit region can come down from their peak and loosen restrictions without cases respiking.

Wuhan videos all over again.. but this time in Europe:

https://twitter.com/i/status/1242016819625562112

https://www.buzzfeed.com/mjs538/famous-people-normal-people-tests

Btw, whoever registered Wuha-400,

then Wuhan-399:

There's infinite numbers. It is easier for me to just use the next number up/down, than for you to keep registering accounts to try and lock me out.

sparky polastry wrote:

Just want to point out that there will be no encouraging news until any hard hit region can come down from their peak and loosen restrictions without cases respiking.

A hard hit region like... Wuhan?

They can do whatever they want now, their population is a brick wall. Too many of them have had the virus for it to spread there.

The reported death rate has always been a pure fantasy based on the pure fantasy of total cases. Statisticians figured out two weeks ago that in fact millions of people in Wuhan were infected, not 66,000. Death rate ~0.1%.

Bad Wigins wrote:

The reported death rate has always been a pure fantasy based on the pure fantasy of total cases. Statisticians figured out two weeks ago that in fact millions of people in Wuhan were infected, not 66,000. Death rate ~0.1%.

China probably has had +30 million plus die, not 3000.

Wuhan-398 wrote:

Bad Wigins wrote:

The reported death rate has always been a pure fantasy based on the pure fantasy of total cases. Statisticians figured out two weeks ago that in fact millions of people in Wuhan were infected, not 66,000. Death rate ~0.1%.

China probably has had +30 million plus die, not 3000.

https://www.theepochtimes.com/the-closing-of-21-million-cell-phone-accounts-in-china-may-suggest-a-high-ccp-virus-death-toll_3281291.html

oh holy $hit