Middle Ground wrote:
It is not difficult to see that a man slapping an unsuspecting women on the butt carries a significantly different weight and meaning than a man or woman slapping a man's butt..
I agree 100%. Your statement also proves that men and women are incontrovertibly unequal. The rest of your diatribe is a long-winded way of saying you don’t have the evidence, but you have an undeniable feeling.
seriously**** wrote:
Jesus bro you're out to lunch
Do you even understand the statistics you cited have to do with vague responses about the behavior of couples and relationships
Those responses have nothing to do with real sexual assault
Do you have any idea how disproportionate the amount of violent sexual assault is between men and women
You can't be that Clueless?
It'll be like saying there was as many white slaves when slavery was going on in the United States as there were black slaves....
Jesus, do you even read, Karen? I cited THREE studies, not just one and not just couples. They show roughly equal reported cases of sexual assault amongst both men and women.
Do you need me to space it out for you so you can read, Karen? You are just sexist and blame men for everything when there are equal numbers of bad women that sexually abuse men. This is why people are fed up with these #metoo wokies. And not to mention there have been numerous cases where women falsely claimed to have been sexually assaulted and ruined the lives of innocent men.
In a 2010 study of heterosexual couples where sexual coercion existed, 45% reported female victimization, 30% reported male victimization and 20% reported reciprocal victimization.[5]
In 2011, a study supported by a research grant from the Department of Education and Science of Spain found based on a "convenience sample of 13,877 students in 32 nations" that 2.4% of males and 1.8% of females admitted to having physically forced someone into having sex in the last year.[6]
In a 2014 study of 18,030 high school students, there was no statistically significant difference between males and females for the reported rate of having been physically forced to have sex.[7]
You Stole My Power! wrote:
seriously**** wrote:
Jesus bro you're out to lunch
Do you even understand the statistics you cited have to do with vague responses about the behavior of couples and relationships
Those responses have nothing to do with real sexual assault
Do you have any idea how disproportionate the amount of violent sexual assault is between men and women
You can't be that Clueless?
It'll be like saying there was as many white slaves when slavery was going on in the United States as there were black slaves....
Jesus, do you even read, Karen? I cited THREE studies, not just one and not just couples. They show roughly equal reported cases of sexual assault amongst both men and women.
Do you need me to space it out for you so you can read, Karen? You are just sexist and blame men for everything when there are equal numbers of bad women that sexually abuse men. This is why people are fed up with these #metoo wokies. And not to mention there have been numerous cases where women falsely claimed to have been sexually assaulted and ruined the lives of innocent men.
In a 2010 study of heterosexual couples where sexual coercion existed, 45% reported female victimization, 30% reported male victimization and 20% reported reciprocal victimization.[5]
In 2011, a study supported by a research grant from the Department of Education and Science of Spain found based on a "convenience sample of 13,877 students in 32 nations" that 2.4% of males and 1.8% of females admitted to having physically forced someone into having sex in the last year.[6]
In a 2014 study of 18,030 high school students, there was no statistically significant difference between males and females for the reported rate of having been physically forced to have sex.[7]
You're clearly not getting it. NO MAN IS INNOCENT! Every man is just one accusation away from a guilty verdict in the court of public opinion.
seriously**** wrote:
So you take my original post out of context
Then you cite some studies about heterosexual couples in Spain
What are you even trying to argue?
If your point is that no one should be mistreated we're in agreement
If your point is that no one should be slapping anyone they don't know and can logically assume would not appreciate it on the ass then we're in agreement
If you think that this example of the football player shows that the original woman reporter from the race was wrong for pressing charges then you're an idiot
If you think that grown men are sexually victimized as often as women then you are also a complete idiot
Actually that would probably make you Way Beyond an idiot but hey who's counting
And when your point is shown to be factually flawed you resort to insults and name calling.
You Stole My Power! wrote:
You are just sexist and blame men for everything when there are equal numbers of bad women that sexually abuse men.
This is laughably false. What fantasy world do you live in?
https://www.rainn.org/statistics/victims-sexual-violenceDo you realize that modern western culture is (theoretically) based on the freedom of the individual? Your statements are comparable to agreeing we should have police officers follow around young black men because they are most likely to commit crimes. Or should we just imprison all young black men preemptively to reduce theoretical crime rates? It is wrong to use supposed "standards" to judge individual cases.
Don't blame me for your troubles.
I just love women too much.
Well O-KKK-DO Kee!
Your cherry picked stats don't support your claims. Go back to T_D with the rest of your kind. You can circle jerk to Elliot Rodger's writings.
Otter played 8th grade football, so he's pretty tough and knows what it means to be a man.
Flagpole wrote:
This is NOT an example of a double standard at all. A double standard here would be if a FEMALE slapped the butt of a MALE and there was no outrage.
If this cameraman was a known out gay man and it was clear that the player knew about it, then the cameraman might have a case to make for some sort of sexual assault or harassment if he wanted to, but that still would not be a double standard. Would ONLY be a double standard there if the cameraman were upset about it and no one gave a damn.
Again, a double standard here would be if a FEMALE slapped the butt of a MALE and there was no outrage.
If the cameraman was male and got upset about it, I wouldn’t give a damn.
Clemson QB just got slapassed after his TD run. Not sure but it looked like a female did it. Now we have a real reverse case to test.
I must say, letsrun.com has been butt-slap central the past few days. I am unsure why.
facty wrote:
You Stole My Power! wrote:
You are just sexist and blame men for everything when there are equal numbers of bad women that sexually abuse men.
This is laughably false. What fantasy world do you live in?
You are incredibly sexy and ignorant and don't know how to do research. The "Rainn" page you linked uses pre-2010 US DOJ prosecutions as justification for the statistics it lists when the Wikipedia article I linked to specifically says:
however, since the broadening of the definition of rape in 2012 by the FBI, more attention is being given to male rape, including females raping males.
Get this through your feminist skull: Before 2012, a lot of males raped or sexually assaulted by females could not be prosecuted because be definition of the law, there was no crime! The age of sexist myth that all women are dainty and that men are always at fault.
The Wikipedia article called "Rape of Males" goes into a lot more detail of this myth perpetuated by feminists. Some quotes from it below:
A significant proportion of victims of rape or other sexual violence incidents are male. Historically, rape was thought to be, and defined as, a crime committed solely against women. This belief is still held in some parts of the world, but rape of males is now commonly criminalized and has been subject to more discussion than in the past.[1]
Rape of males is still taboo, and has a negative connotation among heterosexual and homosexual men.[2][3] Community and service providers often react to the sexual orientation of male victims and the gender of their perpetrators.[4] It may be difficult for male victims to report a sexual assault they experienced, especially in a society with a strong masculine custom. They might be afraid that people will doubt their sexual orientation and label them homosexual, especially if raped by a male, or that they may be seen as un-masculine because they were a victim.
Mostly, male victims try to hide and deny their victimization, similar to female victims, unless they have serious physical injuries. Eventually, the male victims may be very vague in explaining their injuries when they are seeking medical or mental health services.[5]
Research about male-victim rape had only just begun to appear by 1980, focusing mostly on male children. The studies of sexual assault in correctional facilities focusing specifically on the consequences of this kind of rape were available in the early 1980s, but nothing was available during the previous years. Most of the literature regarding rape and sexual assault focuses on female victims.[5]
Only recently have some other forms of sexual violence against men been considered. In the 2010–2012 National Intimate Partner and Sexual Violence Survey (and a prior edition of this study completed in 2010), the Centers for Disease Control (CDC) measured a category of sexual violence called "being made to penetrate" which captures instances in which victims were forced to or attempt to sexually penetrate someone (of either sex), either by physical force or coercion, or when the victim was intoxicated or otherwise unable to consent. The CDC found in the 2012 data that 1.715 million[8] (up from 1.267 million in 2010)[9] reported being "made to penetrate" another person in the preceding 12 months, similar to the 1.473 million[8] (2010: 1.270 million)[9] women who reported being raped in the same time period. The definitions of rape and "made to penetrate" in the CDC study were worded with extremely similar language.[9]
Male victims of sexual abuse by females[17] often face social, political, and legal double standards.[18] The case of Cierra Ross'[19] sexual assault of a man in Chicago gained national headlines and Ross was convicted of aggravated criminal sexual abuse and armed robbery with a bail set at $75,000. A similar case includes James Landrith, who was made to penetrate a female acquaintance in a hotel room while incapacitated from drinking, while his rapist cited the fact that she was pregnant to advise him not to struggle, as this might hurt the baby.[20][21]
Several widely publicized cases of female-on-male statutory rape in the United States involved school teachers having illegal sex with their underage students (see Mary Kay Letourneau and Debra Lafave). There have also been cases where an underage male victim of statutory rape was ordered by a judge to pay child support after the woman became pregnant (see Hermesmann v. Seyer).[22][23][24]
I think I can declare checkmate against your feminist and sexist agenda against male victims of rape by females. Why don't you go some real research instead of just being another woke? Don't think so highly of yourself, there are a lot of repulsive women out there.
Bad Wigins wrote:
Clemson QB just got slapassed after his TD run. Not sure but it looked like a female did it. Now we have a real reverse case to test.
nvm it was a dude and the slap hit the lower back. Entirely legal.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sfCzGiWnk2MYou Stole My Power! wrote:
facty wrote:
This is laughably false. What fantasy world do you live in?
You are incredibly sexy and ignorant and don't know how to do research. The "Rainn" page you linked uses pre-2010 US DOJ prosecutions as justification for the statistics it lists when the Wikipedia article I linked to specifically says:
however, since the broadening of the definition of rape in 2012 by the FBI, more attention is being given to male rape, including females raping males.
Get this through your feminist skull: Before 2012, a lot of males raped or sexually assaulted by females could not be prosecuted because be definition of the law, there was no crime! The age of sexist myth that all women are dainty and that men are always at fault.
The Wikipedia article called "Rape of Males" goes into a lot more detail of this myth perpetuated by feminists. Some quotes from it below:
A significant proportion of victims of rape or other sexual violence incidents are male. Historically, rape was thought to be, and defined as, a crime committed solely against women. This belief is still held in some parts of the world, but rape of males is now commonly criminalized and has been subject to more discussion than in the past.[1]
Rape of males is still taboo, and has a negative connotation among heterosexual and homosexual men.[2][3] Community and service providers often react to the sexual orientation of male victims and the gender of their perpetrators.[4] It may be difficult for male victims to report a sexual assault they experienced, especially in a society with a strong masculine custom. They might be afraid that people will doubt their sexual orientation and label them homosexual, especially if raped by a male, or that they may be seen as un-masculine because they were a victim.
Mostly, male victims try to hide and deny their victimization, similar to female victims, unless they have serious physical injuries. Eventually, the male victims may be very vague in explaining their injuries when they are seeking medical or mental health services.[5]
Research about male-victim rape had only just begun to appear by 1980, focusing mostly on male children. The studies of sexual assault in correctional facilities focusing specifically on the consequences of this kind of rape were available in the early 1980s, but nothing was available during the previous years. Most of the literature regarding rape and sexual assault focuses on female victims.[5]
Only recently have some other forms of sexual violence against men been considered. In the 2010–2012 National Intimate Partner and Sexual Violence Survey (and a prior edition of this study completed in 2010), the Centers for Disease Control (CDC) measured a category of sexual violence called "being made to penetrate" which captures instances in which victims were forced to or attempt to sexually penetrate someone (of either sex), either by physical force or coercion, or when the victim was intoxicated or otherwise unable to consent. The CDC found in the 2012 data that 1.715 million[8] (up from 1.267 million in 2010)[9] reported being "made to penetrate" another person in the preceding 12 months, similar to the 1.473 million[8] (2010: 1.270 million)[9] women who reported being raped in the same time period. The definitions of rape and "made to penetrate" in the CDC study were worded with extremely similar language.[9]
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rape_of_malesMale victims of sexual abuse by females[17] often face social, political, and legal double standards.[18] The case of Cierra Ross'[19] sexual assault of a man in Chicago gained national headlines and Ross was convicted of aggravated criminal sexual abuse and armed robbery with a bail set at $75,000. A similar case includes James Landrith, who was made to penetrate a female acquaintance in a hotel room while incapacitated from drinking, while his rapist cited the fact that she was pregnant to advise him not to struggle, as this might hurt the baby.[20][21]
Several widely publicized cases of female-on-male statutory rape in the United States involved school teachers having illegal sex with their underage students (see Mary Kay Letourneau and Debra Lafave). There have also been cases where an underage male victim of statutory rape was ordered by a judge to pay child support after the woman became pregnant (see Hermesmann v. Seyer).[22][23][24]
I think I can declare checkmate against your feminist and sexist agenda against male victims of rape by females. Why don't you go some real research instead of just being another woke? Don't think so highly of yourself, there are a lot of repulsive women out there.
Cherry picking from wikipedia isn’t real research.
However, from the article you cite, here’s an inequality:
‘Among male victims who were raped by being penetrated, 86.5% reported only male perpetrators’
Mikeh33 wrote:
I must say, letsrun.com has been butt-slap central the past few days. I am unsure why.
Let's just say, it's a preoccupation ... or an unhealthy occupation of sorts for many here.
You Stole My Power! wrote:
seriously**** wrote:
Jesus bro you're out to lunch
Do you even understand the statistics you cited have to do with vague responses about the behavior of couples and relationships
Those responses have nothing to do with real sexual assault
Do you have any idea how disproportionate the amount of violent sexual assault is between men and women
You can't be that Clueless?
It'll be like saying there was as many white slaves when slavery was going on in the United States as there were black slaves....
Jesus, do you even read, Karen? I cited THREE studies, not just one and not just couples. They show roughly equal reported cases of sexual assault amongst both men and women.
Do you need me to space it out for you so you can read, Karen? You are just sexist and blame men for everything when there are equal numbers of bad women that sexually abuse men. This is why people are fed up with these #metoo wokies. And not to mention there have been numerous cases where women falsely claimed to have been sexually assaulted and ruined the lives of innocent men.
In a 2010 study of heterosexual couples where sexual coercion existed, 45% reported female victimization, 30% reported male victimization and 20% reported reciprocal victimization.[5]
In 2011, a study supported by a research grant from the Department of Education and Science of Spain found based on a "convenience sample of 13,877 students in 32 nations" that 2.4% of males and 1.8% of females admitted to having physically forced someone into having sex in the last year.[6]
In a 2014 study of 18,030 high school students, there was no statistically significant difference between males and females for the reported rate of having been physically forced to have sex.[7]
Buddy you are either really stupid or a troll - I suspect both. In either case go back to your hole.
When I was young and more idealistic, I might have given you the benefit of the doubt. Over the years I have learned people like you are just a waste of space.
But keep picking away at the edges while you intentionally ignore the much more important reality.
Bad Wigins wrote:
Clemson QB just got slapassed after his TD run. Not sure but it looked like a female did it. Now we have a real reverse case to test.
Not the same thing. He is an athlete. He just did something that for whatever weird reason often results in butt slapping. It is NOT normal for a non-athlete person standing on the side of the road to get his or her butt slapped.
The other thing that I'm sure is lost on you is that women have been treated badly by men and oppressed and objectified pretty much forever. Sorry, but it's a bigger deal TODAY when a man UNINVITED slaps the butt of a woman than the other way around. Ultimately, the receiver of the butt slapping gets to decide if they were upset by it or not. Bottom line is All I Really Need to Know I Learned in Kindergarten applies here. Keep your hands to yourself.
It's quite disturbing how so many of you excuse sexual assault against males just because it's historically occurred less frequently. You people are truly sick.