Why is Cheserek’s citizenship taking so long?

Magazine Cover wrote:

You have a country, live there wrote:

That’s fine, but sports are a pastime. Chez ain’t curing cancer, homie. And neither are the Mexicans sneaking across the river.

Since when is curing cancer a requirement for U.S. citizenship?

As someone noted, Melania Trump's only qualification for the E1-B visa was getting on a magazine cover.

Since when does every person on earth get to become a us citizen. He has citizenship in Kenya. Live there. Obama can liven in his home country of Kenya as well.

There's a pretty nasty undercurrent to a lot of remarks on this thread and it represents the ugliness of the body politic in this country.

I believe that Frank Shorter wrote an op-ed in the New York Times at one point bemoaning the fact that Kahallid Khanochi's application for citizenship was taking too long for him to represent the USA in the coming Olympics. And then the USA had recent-citizen Mark Plaatjes win gold in the 1993 World Championship marathon.

Say if that was right or wrong, but I don't remember this amount of belly-aching and nationalism (or racism? - both were lighter-skinned than Ches) at the time. Why is it so different now? If allowing Ches to become a citizen of this country is such a huge problem for people, you all truly live a blessed life. I think it would be great.

What is the real cause of all the whining and anger in this country?

douglas burke wrote:

What the what the wrote:

When the Democrats regain control of the executive branch, will they put Melania in prison for breaking immigration laws, or will they just deport her and her parents?

Neither, Politicians are better than holding grudges after a rival politician is out of offices or loses an election,

It is not a grudge to put felons in prison and to deport illegal immigrants. It is enforcing the laws. Republicans are the party of law breakers, and Democrats are the party of loving America.

Bringing up the race card is lame, as all three are non Caucasian.

There’s nothing political about immigration law. It’s all there in black and white. There is one group of ideologues that push to ignore those laws for political purposes, and another group that prefers more stringent application of those laws.

Ches applied for residency and was denied. This was during the pre Trump years. There were millions others who applied and also denied. There were millions others who applied and were approved. They met criteria. Cheserek did not. End of story.

He needs to apply first to be a resident. Then he needs to be a resident for five years before applying for citizenship. That will take another year.

What’s the basis for his residency application anyway? They don’t transfer student visas into residency visas. If he applied for a special citizenship route and was rejected, he doesn’t even have a basis for residency, let alone citizenship.

My guess is he has a Kenyan passport with a series of US student visas in it. That is not a path to residency and then citizenship status.

He needs to face reality, like the potential sponsors did. He’s a Kenyan and unlikely to become an American citizen during his peek years, quickly fading.

What?

I said “perhaps falsified documents” and this is your response? The race card? Really?

Original post was a question. I provided a possible answer.

Ask yourself the question why hasn’t Cheserek gained US citizenship by now. The answer could be one of many.

The length of time Cheserek has been in the USA (high school, college, post collegiate) is a long time. It is reasonable to assume citizenship application took place years ago. It is also reasonable to think, given undoubtedly many people going to bat for Cheserek and his desire for citizenship, that there may be

Legal reasons for denial.

- It would be VERY risky by his sponsors to knowingly hire an illegal alien.

They say his birth certificate got mixed up with Obama's......

They got to fix the age thing or else Nike, Oregon and Kenya look bad.

- Simpler than that .... the reality is the time required to vet given its allowed the inflitration of Violent Islamic Terrorist:

https://travel.state.gov/content/travel/en/traveladvisories/traveladvisories/kenya-travel-advisory.html

- Furthermore, if I was the Foreign Service Officer it would like this "Wait a minute, you want to become an American & remain in the United States while your siblings now w/o a mother or father live in poverty back in Western Kenya? Show me your remitance records!"

- Is this the type of American we really want? Get's a prestigious high school & college education, but doesn't want to return & make things right in Kenya?

Juice Springsteen wrote:

Ed Ches has said in the past he thought someone at Oregon was just taking care of his citizenship so he didn’t start the process himself.

So that's how they got him to stick around all four years. They strung him along, over raced him and used him to score a bunch of points at conference and national meets. The way that Oregon used him up is why elite runners should avoid Oregon like the plague as they do not look out for the long term health of their athletes but the short term goal of scoring points at the national meets.

A college athletic department has no place pursuing legal matters for an athlete, apart from making sure the foreign athlete has the proper student visa. Beyond that it’s the individual’s responsibility. However, Ches has no legal basis for residency. His sponsor probably got him a work visa but that is not a path to residency nor citizenship. He needs to get his legal residency status first, then wait 5 years to apply for citizenship. A work visa allows him to live and work here, but it won’t turn into residency. He could marry a US citizen and then apply for residency. The wait time to apply for citizenship would then only be three years, with a year of processing time.

His legal status in the US explains why, despite being the winningist college athlete of all time, he had trouble securing sponsorship.

Off on a tangent here, but did Henry Rono ever become a US citizen? Seems like he’s been US based forever, even though he quit running a while back

Almost like they wanted to invent false controversy.

The notion that people who are here without legal status (e.g., overstay of visa) are not "illegal" is completely absurd.

The legal consequences of overstaying a visa can be quite significant, leading to exclusions of 3 to 10 years from re-entering the country. And visa overstayers have significantly less due process than many other groups. Why anyone familiar with immigration law would fixate on this abstract notion of being illegal or not is beyond my comprehension.

The laws are not flexible, and the consequences of violating them are quite drastic.

0jujj wrote:

They say his birth certificate got mixed up with Obama's......

I am so tied of this birther crap. I don't know why it hung around.

No one doubts who Obama's mother was. An American citizen. That means any child of hers is automatically awarded citizenship, even if he'd been born in Iraq.

Ted Cruz was born in Canada to a naturalized American citizen from Cuba. No one whined more than a week, and people here are still talking about where they think Obama was born, as if it actually meant something.

It doesn't matter where he was born. His citizenship was due to the citizenship of his mother.

Even jokes about this rubbish have become tiresome

Run for kenya wrote:

A work visa allows him to live and work here, but it won’t turn into residency.

Upon sponsorship through an employer the H1-B visa (work visa) is initially issued for 3 years, and can be renewed for another 3 years after that. After 6 years, the employer can petition for you to receive a green card (permanent residency), however this is pretty expensive and you'd have to be real super for an employer to spend that money on your behalf. And then, again after 5 years one can apply for citizenship. So, the work visa can be path to citizenship, and in total it'd take 11 years.

I am not sure if Cheserek even is on a work visa. He may be on some visa for professional athletes (e.g. P-1A visa) and I don't think this type of visa is a path to citizenship.

sillyman wrote:

0jujj wrote:

They say his birth certificate got mixed up with Obama's......

I am so tied of this birther crap. I don't know why it hung around.

No one doubts who Obama's mother was. An American citizen. That means any child of hers is automatically awarded citizenship, even if he'd been born in Iraq.

Ted Cruz was born in Canada to a naturalized American citizen from Cuba. No one whined more than a week, and people here are still talking about where they think Obama was born, as if it actually meant something.

It doesn't matter where he was born. His citizenship was due to the citizenship of his mother.

Even jokes about this rubbish have become tiresome

Wahhh, don't make fun of my political god Obama! Wahhh!

hdjeksbdbakd wrote:

I don’t know much about the process. It seems like he’s been here long enough that there must have been some complications that have slowed it down.

Bled dry by Oregon.

Blackballed in Beaverton.

Strung along by Total Sports with no US citizenship on the horizon.

Hopefully Ed is banking some money for his future in Kenya.