Why is Cheserek’s citizenship taking so long?

Needs to enlist into the United States Army.

Sounds like he’s about to just say f*** it and run for Kenya. Based on the comment he left on Mo’s post of “I’ll see you there Mo”.

Curious, can anyone confirm?

I imagine Kenya would select him, but perhaps not. He’s their 4th fastest over 5k at 13:04 and obviously has a nice kick.

hdjeksbdbakd wrote:

I don’t know much about the process. It seems like he’s been here long enough that there must have been some complications that have slowed it down.

Yes. Those complications are calledTRUMP and his inane policy making.

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hdjeksbdbakd wrote:

I don’t know much about the process. It seems like he’s been here long enough that there must have been some complications that have slowed it down.

Yes. Those complications are calledTRUMP and his inane policy making.

Who knows, maybe that birth certificate is bogus?

We’re not obligated to take him.

Immigration and citizenship qualifying criteria exist for a reason. He obviously doesn’t qualify or hasn’t yet.

yes, that's it wrote:

hdjeksbdbakd wrote:

I don’t know much about the process. It seems like he’s been here long enough that there must have been some complications that have slowed it down.

Yes. Those complications are calledTRUMP and his inane policy making.

Ummm. He applied even before DJT became president

yes, that's it wrote:

hdjeksbdbakd wrote:

I don’t know much about the process. It seems like he’s been here long enough that there must have been some complications that have slowed it down.

Yes. Those complications are calledTRUMP and his inane policy making.

The policy holding him back was present before Trump.

Not so wrote:

yes, that's it wrote:

Yes. Those complications are calledTRUMP and his inane policy making.

Ummm. He applied even before DJT became president

Please don't let facts get in the way of someone's bullshît agenda. Commonplace to make things up on this site, and then pass it off as fact.

choice of skechers on the sneakers question

lied about his age

Unfortunately I don’t know 100% if this true, but I’ll share what I heard at one of the bigger US meets. For context, I overheard only some of this conversation and had to piece parts of it together later using context clues. Here’s my spark notes summary.

-Ches applied for some form of international visa/naturalization( presumably the Einstein visa).

-Ches’ only credibility for influence or talent was his NCAA dominance and international competition.

-Ches was denied on the basis that he didn’t qualify through international acclaim.

[Einstein visa: The visa is granted to three types of people: those with extraordinary ability in the sciences, arts, education, business, or athletics which has been demonstrated by sustained national or international acclaim and whose achievements have been recognized in the field through extensive documentation.]

Again, please take this with a grain of salt, I don’t work with Cheserek or personally know him.

There’s the matter of wrote:

We’re not obligated to take him.

Immigration and citizenship qualifying criteria exist for a reason. He obviously doesn’t qualify or hasn’t yet.

The U.S. makes it incredibly hard to gain citizenship legally.

hdjeksbdbakd wrote:

I don’t know much about the process. It seems like he’s been here long enough that there must have been some complications that have slowed it down.

"Never" is a long time.

Wow, this is sad and surprising on the Einstein visa. With a boatload of NCAA titles, and a strong start to pro career on track and road, one would think he would easily satisfy the requirement for "national, and international acclaim" in athletics. He has been a US resident through prep school, college, and pro start - that's meanwhile about 10 years. If they are looking for world/olympic wins - he can't get those without a country to run for....

I hope it works out for him.

Interesting to read for those of us old enough to remember the Bernard Lagat citizenship controversy. Lagat also had been waiting for years for the US to decide on his citizenship application. In 2004 he was reasonably sure that he was not going to be granted citizenship in time for the US track trials. So in early 2004 when he still was a Kenyan citizen he committed to run for Kenya at the Olympics. Then, in May 2004,without any sort of prior notice from US INS, his citizenship application was approved only 8 weeks before US track trials. At that point he didn't know if he would be considered qualified and allowed to run US trials, and he was already named to the Kenyan Olympic team, so he said nothing publicly about his citizenship status and ran the 1500 for Kenya. Most of the hardcore track fans who got upset about this had no appreciation for the reality that the US Immigration Service doesn't give a hoot about elite middle distance runners and approval of their citizenship applications in a timely fashion.

Ed Ches has said in the past he thought someone at Oregon was just taking care of his citizenship so he didn’t start the process himself.

He isn't going to qualify for an einstein visa. He might meet the first criteria, but I don't see him meeting any of the other ones.

EB1 Extraordinary Ability green card application is in the employment-based immigration visa first preference (EB1) category known as EB1A or EB1EA. Among all three categories under EB-1, only EB-1A allows self petition—meaning, an individual can petition an EB-1A case for himself/herself without any U.S. employer to act as the sponsor/petitioner. However, EB-1A also has a very high standard of law. It requires the petitioner to show that the individual has either won some major award (Nobel Prize, for example) or met at least three out of ten regulatory criteria and show that the individual has "risen to the very top of the endeavor with national or international acclaim." After the precedent case, Kazarian v. USCIS (Two-Part Analysis for EB1-A Petition), the adjudicating officers are applying a two-part adjudication approach—after determining whether the individual has met at least three regulatory criteria, the adjudicator must consider all of the submitted evidence in totality to make a determination as to whether the foreign national meets the requisite level of expertise for the category. EB1A green card application has clear advantages for scholars, researchers, post doctoral research fellows, Ph.D. students, and other advanced degree professionals.

An alien applicant must meet 3 out of the 10 listed criteria below to prove extraordinary ability in the field:[1]

Evidence of receipt of lesser nationally or internationally recognized prizes or awards for excellence

Evidence of membership in associations in the field, which demand outstanding achievement of their members

Evidence of published material about you in professional or major trade publications or other major media

Evidence of judging the work of others, either individually or on a panel

Evidence of original scientific, scholarly, artistic, athletic, or business-related contributions of major significance to the field

Evidence of authorship of scholarly articles in professional or major trade publications or other major media

Evidence that work has been displayed at artistic exhibitions or showcases

Evidence of performance of a leading or critical role in distinguished organizations

Evidence of high salary or other significantly high remuneration in relation to others in the field

Evidence of commercial successes in the performing arts

The major advantages of applying for aliens of extraordinary ability include: no labor certification is required for this EB-1 category; no job offer or permanent job position is required for aliens of extraordinary ability; and much faster to obtain a Green Card than the EB-3 or EB-2 immigration categories.

Contrary to what most illegal immigrant haters think, it is a very difficult and drawn out process to get legal status. There are country quotas and wait lists... For citizenship , you have to be sponsored by a company/direct relative (or a few other options) for several years without a glitch in your paperwork. Then you’ll be eligible to apply for citizenship, which is another multi year process. Then, as long as you haven’t messed up your paperwork or sponsorship during this period, you’ll get to take the citizenship coursework and swear-in.

Even immigrants that serve in our military have difficulty and have their applications denied.

I very much disagree. The core of this county's ethos is that we want the best, hardest working, bravest and the brightest of the world to come here and join.