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4 years ago 11/03/2019 1:05pm EST

I started another thread asking people how they did and to rate themselves.

Figure we should do the same for the Pros.

I'll start with top 5 and top 5 Americans.

1) Kamworor A

2) Alberto Korir A

3) Girma Bekele from "semi-elite" start A+

4) Tamirat Tola 2:09:20 B-

5) Shura Kitata B-

I wonder if the other LRC guys will be harsher on Tola and Kitata

American men

1 Jared Ward 2:10:45 PB 2:12 last year A-

2 Abdi Abdi 40+ 2:11:34 A+ thought his career was over

3 Connor McMllian 2:12:07 A

4 Tyler Pennel 2:14:10 A on return from injury

5 John Raneri 2:14:13 A - is he only a 30 minute guy?

Women:

1) Joyciline Jepkosgei A

2) Mary Keitany 2:23:32 B+

3) Ruti Aga 2:25:51 B-

4) Nancy Kiprop B

5) Sinead Diver A master's runner

American women:

1) Des Linden 2:26:46 B (A for giving american's some entertainment)

2) Kellyn Taylor 2:26:52 B = fact she ran almost equal to Des maybe should give her a B+

3) Aliphine Tuliamuk 2:28:12 B+ been injured of late

4) Roberta Groner 2:30:12 A = 6th at Worlds and now this as a master

5) Katy (Moen) Jermann 2:31:55 A = PB 2:33 in Houston was previous best

4 years ago 11/03/2019 1:43pm EST

re: wejo

Raneri has run 14:07 and 29:16, definitely not equivalent to a 2:14, but he did run 1:02:51 in the half

I'd say A+ for McMillan. I know he was fast on the track at BYU but only marathon result i see is a 2:23 in Chicago, so being less than 90 seconds behind Ward is pretty damn good.

4 years ago 11/04/2019 7:14am EST

re: mytake

I was about to agree w McMillan A+ but is 2:12 with new shoes = 2:14 old shoes?

Fact he ran by himself makes it impressive to me but I could see a guy like that running 2:14 .

4 years ago 11/04/2019 7:47am EST

re: wejo

Really happy for Tyler. He himself on IG described his race as "good but not great" and vowed to work hard over the next 4 months before the trials but considering the injuries he's coming back from 2:14 on a cold, windy day in NY is great in my book.

Altho the mustache trend that he and Jared Ward are promoting needs to stop.

4 years ago 11/04/2019 10:06am EST

re: Just Average

Looks like some good old Cornell grade inflation!

4 years ago 11/04/2019 10:16am EST

re: wejo

wejo wrote:
I started another thread asking people how they did and to rate themselves.
Figure we should do the same for the Pros.
I'll start with top 5 and top 5 Americans.
1) Kamworor A
2) Alberto Korir A
3) Girma Bekele from "semi-elite" start A+
4) Tamirat Tola 2:09:20 B-
5) Shura Kitata B-
I wonder if the other LRC guys will be harsher on Tola and Kitata
American men
1 Jared Ward 2:10:45 PB 2:12 last year A-
2 Abdi Abdi 40+ 2:11:34 A+ thought his career was over
3 Connor McMllian 2:12:07 A
4 Tyler Pennel 2:14:10 A on return from injury
5 John Raneri 2:14:13 A - is he only a 30 minute guy?
Women:
1) Joyciline Jepkosgei A
2) Mary Keitany 2:23:32 B+
3) Ruti Aga 2:25:51 B-
4) Nancy Kiprop B
5) Sinead Diver A master's runner
American women:
1) Des Linden 2:26:46 B (A for giving american's some entertainment)
2) Kellyn Taylor 2:26:52 B = fact she ran almost equal to Des maybe should give her a B+
3) Aliphine Tuliamuk 2:28:12 B+ been injured of late
4) Roberta Groner 2:30:12 A = 6th at Worlds and now this as a master
5) Katy (Moen) Jermann 2:31:55 A = PB 2:33 in Houston was previous best

Way to leave out Joey Whalen. I give him B+, he jogged a 2:18 last month but only managed a 2:16 for NYC. Training indicated sub 2:12. Decent but not great performance.

4 years ago 11/04/2019 10:19am EST

re: wejo

I agree with most of your grading but I disagree with Des Linden. Most of us come to this board because we expect a different take than the RunnersWorld crowd.

Is there one person on this board that thought Des had a chance to win when she opened up a 15 second lead on the field? Hell no. Even she knew that this was a middle school move. She is no longer a factor to win a race. She goes through the motions before and says that she’s in it to win it.

She is in a different zip code over the last 10k but always says she is in it to win it before hand. That has to be a failing grade.

4 years ago 11/04/2019 11:02am EST

re: wejo

wejo wrote:
American men
1 Jared Ward 2:10:45 PB 2:12 last year A-

He ran 2:11 at the Olympics

4 years ago 11/04/2019 11:14am EST

re: Leopardly

Leopardly wrote:
wejo wrote:
American men
1 Jared Ward 2:10:45 PB 2:12 last year A-
He ran 2:11 at the Olympics

He ran 2:09:25 at Boston.

4 years ago 11/04/2019 7:55pm EST

re: Just Average

Just Average wrote:
Altho the mustache trend that he and Jared Ward are promoting needs to stop.

Pennel mustache C-

Ward mustache B+

4 years ago 11/05/2019 2:29am EST

re: wejo

wejo wrote:
I started another thread asking people how they did and to rate themselves.
Figure we should do the same for the Pros.
I'll start with top 5 and top 5 Americans.
1) Kamworor A
2) Alberto Korir A
3) Girma Bekele from "semi-elite" start A+
4) Tamirat Tola 2:09:20 B-
5) Shura Kitata B-
I wonder if the other LRC guys will be harsher on Tola and Kitata
American men
1 Jared Ward 2:10:45 PB 2:12 last year A-
2 Abdi Abdi 40+ 2:11:34 A+ thought his career was over
3 Connor McMllian 2:12:07 A
4 Tyler Pennel 2:14:10 A on return from injury
5 John Raneri 2:14:13 A - is he only a 30 minute guy?
Women:
1) Joyciline Jepkosgei A
2) Mary Keitany 2:23:32 B+
3) Ruti Aga 2:25:51 B-
4) Nancy Kiprop B
5) Sinead Diver A master's runner
American women:
1) Des Linden 2:26:46 B (A for giving american's some entertainment)
2) Kellyn Taylor 2:26:52 B = fact she ran almost equal to Des maybe should give her a B+
3) Aliphine Tuliamuk 2:28:12 B+ been injured of late
4) Roberta Groner 2:30:12 A = 6th at Worlds and now this as a master
5) Katy (Moen) Jermann 2:31:55 A = PB 2:33 in Houston was previous best

Nancy Kiprop is ALSO a Masters runner age 40

I know Boston is an IAAF ineligible net-downhill course wrote:
Leopardly wrote:
He ran 2:11 at the Olympics
He ran 2:09:25 at Boston.

Yes but that was this year. The post I quoted was saying 2:12 was his PB as of last year

4 years ago 11/06/2019 7:38am EST

re: Just Average

Just Average wrote:
Really happy for Tyler. He himself on IG described his race as "good but not great" and vowed to work hard over the next 4 months before the trials but considering the injuries he's coming back from 2:14 on a cold, windy day in NY is great in my book.
Altho the mustache trend that he and Jared Ward are promoting needs to stop.

They all say this same junk- Charlie Grice and the rest of the British middle distance/distance guys are especially persistent with apologies and vows for more hard work after disappointments.

4 years ago 11/06/2019 1:06pm EST

re: wejo

Seth Demoor- D+. C- cuz he ran with a camera.

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