Why didn't CU get Sprout or Culpepper

Sodjskak wrote:

Ralphie CU wrote:

You know this was 20 years ago, right? And I read the book too.

This doesn't answer my question. Can CU not give scholarships while other schools can? Do other schools give full rides?

There are about 1 or 2 kids each year that are worth full rides to schools like Colorado. They can get two kids on 50% that help the team and only 5 or 10 seconds slower over 2 miles, or risk it all on a boom or bust uber talent. Which is a better deal? Two lottery tickets or one?

Good point

Sprout goes to Valor, the ultimate rich athlete school. It's pretty much Standford, the high school version (without the academics)

and it's idiotic to make a blanket statement like UW is better than CU, or CU is average. Like nearly all schools it depends on the degree. Some areas CU is top notch, some areas it is not.

CO XC GURU wrote:

Sprout goes to Valor, the ultimate rich athlete school. It's pretty much Standford, the high school version (without the academics)

and it's idiotic to make a blanket statement like UW is better than CU, or CU is average. Like nearly all schools it depends on the degree. Some areas CU is top notch, some areas it is not.

"Overall UW is much better academically than CU"

there ya go, fixed

REAL. wrote:

Not sure Jenny can contend with Centro's credentials -

Olympic Gold

World Championship Silver

World Championship Bronze

Olympic 4th

I'm sure you simply have a bias towards Jenny Simpson, but facts are facts. Nothing trumps Olympic Gold, as Simpson stated this herself and how she feels her career is incomplete without it.

Eh, it's not like elite 1500 runners hold themselves out of WC years. The Olympics have more prestige but it's no harder a race. Simpson has 4 medals to Centros 3: WC gold, 2x WC silver, and Olympic bronze. She won the Diamond League in 2014, which is something Centrowitz has never even approached and which is far more indicative of competitiveness with the rest of the world in an event than is a 3:50 1500 final. She has 6 US titles to his 5 (I believe).

Props to Centro, he's fantastic, but Simpson is our best 1500m runner if we're not counting Lagat since most of his 1500m accolades were for Kenya.

CO XC GURU wrote:

Sprout goes to Valor, the ultimate rich athlete school. It's pretty much Standford, the high school version (without the academics)

and it's idiotic to make a blanket statement like UW is better than CU, or CU is average. Like nearly all schools it depends on the degree. Some areas CU is top notch, some areas it is not.

UW has been and continues to be a stronger academic environment and a more well respected diploma than CU. That's a fact. CU has made up some ground in the last 10-20 years, but it's not quite into the top-tier of public universities.

Montlake Miracle wrote:

CO XC GURU wrote:

Sprout goes to Valor, the ultimate rich athlete school. It's pretty much Standford, the high school version (without the academics)

and it's idiotic to make a blanket statement like UW is better than CU, or CU is average. Like nearly all schools it depends on the degree. Some areas CU is top notch, some areas it is not.

UW has been and continues to be a stronger academic environment and a more well respected diploma than CU. That's a fact. CU has made up some ground in the last 10-20 years, but it's not quite into the top-tier of public universities.

That’s overblown a bit. The differences aren’t that significant in reality. Depends on the program. CU engineering is in the top level.

CO XC GURU wrote:

Sprout goes to Valor, the ultimate rich athlete school. It's pretty much Standford, the high school version (without the academics)

and it's idiotic to make a blanket statement like UW is better than CU, or CU is average. Like nearly all schools it depends on the degree. Some areas CU is top notch, some areas it is not.

It's not idiotic.

Its fact.

As a CU alum and with kids in hs and college, it's an objective fact that UW is a harder school to get accepted to than CU.

Higher SAT/ACT for accepted applicants.

Higher gpa for accepted students.

Higher class rank for accepted students.

Once @ school, UW has much higher ranked programs in every field except engineering, where CU is closer. Top notch?? If "top notch" means top 100 in nation then ok, true. But CU isnt top 10 or even top 25 at anything even amoung just state universities

Athletically, UW is a true Pac 10 powerhouse. .....Except for xc, UW beats CU in every other sport regularly. In T&F UW actually focuses on all disciplines.

For Culppepper, he will be surrounded with top mid d talents and coach Powell.

And he'll probably race more.

At CU he would be surrounded by top distance talents and a coach who emphasizes mileage and distance events and not racing to many meets

At UW, he will be competitve in 800s and 15/mile. At CU, just the 15/mile.

That said, my money would still be on Wetmore to get Culpepper to a better pr eventually than Powell would. (Altitude would help too)

...We'll never know!

It's a different program than when it was Wetmore and JD coaching the distance guys, just leave it at that.

Droddy & Stinson's Communal Bong wrote:

Also, Wetmore doesn't need to recruit, that's a job for his assistants Nelson and Burroughs.

wrong it is hi job to recruit. That would be a big reason they don't win nationals

LL88RUN wrote:

Droddy & Stinson's Communal Bong wrote:

Also, Wetmore doesn't need to recruit, that's a job for his assistants Nelson and Burroughs.

wrong it is hi job to recruit. That would be a big reason they don't win nationals

Doesn't win nationals?

Do you really need a history lesson?

Wetmore is recruitung the same way he always has. That has resulted in 8 National championships:

Men Women

2014. 2018

2013. 2004

2006. 2000

2004

2001

By what standard does Coach Wetmore not meet the standard of National Champion coach?

Culpepper has made it clear he wants to run the 800/1500. Why would he ever go with Wetmore when Cruz's, Dad who was a marathoner, set and held the school record of 3:39 for 20 years under Wetmore. 3:39 is not that good. Wetmore may know how to get it done with women 1500m runners but he has not come close on the men's side. Powell coached Centro to 3:34 at U of O. Kids these days do their homework and my bet is Cruz didn't want to go to CU and NOT reach his potential in the 1500.

In the Buff wrote:

LL88RUN wrote:

wrong it is hi job to recruit. That would be a big reason they don't win nationals

Doesn't win nationals?

Do you really need a history lesson?

Wetmore is recruitung the same way he always has. That has resulted in 8 National championships:

Men Women

2014. 2018

2013. 2004

2006. 2000

2004

2001

By what standard does Coach Wetmore not meet the standard of National Champion coach?

And 5 individual champions.

What's with all these fools who think Washington if Ivy League. Slow down BOOMER. Harder to get into doesn't mean better but nice try. Have you kids go be Huskies and see people laugh at them when they act like they went to Harvard. LOL . No one , NO ONE, in the real world, will be impressed if you went to UW.

UW allows 1190 SAT entry, not that high for people who think "Ivy League" of the MethWest. Love the $9000 price tag. That's amazingly cheap. Cheaper than the local community college in my state.

https://www.niche.com/colleges/search/top-public-universities/s/washington/

Everyone is overcomplicating this. If you want to excel in cross, run for Wetmore. If you want to excel on the track, run for Powell. Stanford is never a wrong choice.

No CU? Maybe it was due to the poor air quality hitting the front range due to rednecks from Weld County and other bum areas supporting fracking, plus the in commuters

School rankings don't mean much in the general sense. Your major makes more of a difference. I've never been impressed with someones who graduates from Harvard, Cornell, Stanford or MIT with a degree in political science, film or communications. I'm more impressed with someone who graduates from state school with a degree in math, physics or biology. Why waste all that money in some Ivy or Stanford for a degree in political science.? Really? Cool story bro.

The Ivies and Stanford scream rich kids or rich people. It does not scream "high IQ" or STEM.

You haven't seen the student body lately. The schools are comprised of nearly 50% poor minorites.