Jgt11 wrote:
The whole season teams run the 8k and there doesn't seem to be any problem with bunching.
1) no race will have the paraody that nationals has, thus the need for 10k
2) some regular season races are ridiculously buched. A whole lot of guys between 24-25 minutes at Louisville this weekend
Yuhhhh wrote:
Race more wrote:
Increase the minimum race number to 8 or 10 per season, make dual meets count towards championship season. Reward competitive racing through a whole season, not just 3 races. If football players can play every Saturday, xc guys can race every Saturday.
More races, more 10ks.
There are already enough injuries to go around buddy. Racing a 10k every week will leave athletes going home devasted
Runners don't race enough. Look at your average baseball, football or basketball season: they compete way more than runners. Ten 10ks is fine in a season if you're man enough.
Off topic proposal: let’s raise the scholarship cap please. Raise the Men’s cap to 18 and 20 for Womens. Even a little bit than what’s current would be great.
Race more wrote:
Yuhhhh wrote:
There are already enough injuries to go around buddy. Racing a 10k every week will leave athletes going home devasted
Runners don't race enough. Look at your average baseball, football or basketball season: they compete way more than runners. Ten 10ks is fine in a season if you're man enough.
Even if the opportunity existed to run ten 10k’s, no intelligent coach would go for it. Running a 10k every weekend is more likely to tear a runner down than build them up. And no ranked team is going to miss 4-5 good weekends of work just to compete in meaningless early season races.
If anything it should be 12k. I would like if US XC was More focused on racing across the country side as opposed to making it grass track season. We need to realize and embrace the true meaning of XC.
Typical Sportster wrote:
The 8k is more accessible for 800/1500 guys. I'd welcome the change. Also sets up for closer finishes and tighter racing.
boo hoo, middle distance guys don't want to put in the mileage. Xc is about building a solid pace or middle distance guys. If xc distance is dropped, we need to have the indoor 10k!
Seems they aught to have women race a distance that equals the approximate time men run, not the same distance. Even in high school women's 4k and men's 5k would be closer to the equal time for both
How about running a short course XC and a long course XC champs? Team title to the school that performs the best in the combined total score from both races.
If we're going to come up with crazy proposals, let's go CRAZY.
I would support this as long as the championships are run in warmer climates
Another idea wrote:
Off topic proposal: let’s raise the scholarship cap please. Raise the Men’s cap to 18 and 20 for Womens. Even a little bit than what’s current would be great.
You better figure out a way to change Title IX if you want to raise men's XC/Track scholarships. There is a sport called "football" that is a 85 scholarship anchor on every athletic department which causes there to be far less men's sports and scholarships to distribute across all the Olympic sports.
Also, keep the men's 10k. They just need to change the schedule so that there is a 2 week gap between regionals and Nationals, that way teams wouldn't be so fearful to rest athletes most of the year like they do now with just the 8 day gap between races.
Thankyouuuu wrote:
FFF wrote:
Then don't run the 80, 190, or 770 until the championships, so why do we run 8K all season until the 10K finale?
I think it's so stupid that they run 8ks until championship races. If you're going to run the 10k just run the f******* 10k. Switching the distance just for championship races is beyond stupid.
Agree. 100%
Then need to keep the post season at 10K. It's xc, not mid-distance.
TrackFan19 wrote:
Thankyouuuu wrote:
I think it's so stupid that they run 8ks until championship races. If you're going to run the 10k just run the f******* 10k. Switching the distance just for championship races is beyond stupid.
Agree. 100%
As somebody who was likely tougher mentally than you guys, and that is not intended as a disparagement of you guys, but just playing the odds knowing who I am, I disagree wholeheartedly, not about whether the champs should be 8 or 10k, but running many 10ks, if you are mentally tough, is very draining. I think the 8ks are just fine during the season, as they can almost serve as a speed session for the eventual 10k.
TrackFan19 wrote:
Thankyouuuu wrote:
I think it's so stupid that they run 8ks until championship races. If you're going to run the 10k just run the f******* 10k. Switching the distance just for championship races is beyond stupid.
Agree. 100%
Can't believe how many idiots this topic brings out. Teams are already free to race 10Ks during the season if they choose. There's a 10K XC this weekend at Western Washington University (a D2 meet). Many other races are 5k, 6k, 4 miles, etc. There is nothing stupid about it unless you have obsessive compulsive disorder and need every race to be the exact same distance.
Yes they should drop the 10K to 8K as all through the season they rarely compete over 10K.
just an opinion...i wish it was 10k for both genders for all divisions....or at least 8k women 10k men, if we want the races to take roughly the same amount of time.
i think our (d3) championship races are too clogged as they are now. because the depth has improved so drastically over the past 10-15 years, the start is too big a factor in the result.
lengthening the races would help.
i think the mid-d kids can extend their endurance enough to cover the extra distance, and frankly i would enjoy the coaching challenge
not holding my breath for any of this to actually happen...