On what kind of stuff is Salwa Eid Naser?

Apparently not the same stuff as the ladies with the WR and World #2 times...

Juri wrote:

Apparently not the same stuff as the ladies with the WR and World #2 times...

They at least had much faster times at shorter distances, same for Perec and Miller-Uibo. 22.51 und 48.14 is ridiculous

Karita Moch wrote:

Juri wrote:

Apparently not the same stuff as the ladies with the WR and World #2 times...

They at least had much faster times at shorter distances, same for Perec and Miller-Uibo. 22.51 und 48.14 is ridiculous

Why? Jeremy Wariner's pbs were 10.94, 20.19, and 43.45.

For every successful runner, there are certain people behind the scenes making the magic happen.

Answers given in another thread:

dookie19 wrote:

dookie19 wrote:

Yes they are/were training partners, coached by a Bulgarian...

Yanko Bratanov, who also coached two other Nigerian ex-pats in Bahrain, Femi Ogunode and Samuel Francis....both of who have tested positive for banned substances.

rockin' rashid ramzi wrote:

IAAF piece here says she changed coach a while back:

https://www.iaaf.org/news/feature/salwa-eid-naser-bahrain-400m-iaaf-world-champ

Given that it's implausible that she wasn't doping under the Bulgarian fella whose whole group was seemingly on steroids, what are the chances she's now clean (and considerably faster)?

I'm going to say...0.5%.

I'll give her that. I'd say there's a one in two hundred chance she's not cheated.

According to this piece (weeks before Río Olympic Games) she still was trained at the time by Bulgarian coach Yanko Bratanov. Bratanov coached many suspended athletes:

-Femi Ogunode (QAT) Asían record with 9.91 (banned from 2012 to 2014)

-Samuel Francis (QAT) 9.99. Tested positive by Stanozolol. He said “Every supplement I took then was given to me by my coach Yanko Bratanov (Bulgaria). I was young, naive and didn’t know exactly what was given to me. He said I should trust him, no questions asked.”

http://www.dohastadiumplusqatar.com/contentpage.aspx?article=From-fame-to-shame

-Barakhat Mubarak Al Harthi (OMA) 10.05 in 2016. Banned for six months in 2017.

-Kemi Adekoya (BAR). 54.12 in 400m hurdles. 50.72 in 400m. Tested positive in January 2019.

She dropped almost an entire second from her pb in one race.

Coach has had 4 banned runners.

Phil Swift wrote:

She dropped almost an entire second from her pb in one race.

Coach has had 4 banned runners.

Current coach has 0 (zero) banned runners. Left the precious coach when she was 18. Has dropped circa 1 second from her pb every single season since she was 16. Not saying she is definitely clean, but those argument aren't convincing.

Sifansshass wrote:

Phil Swift wrote:

She dropped almost an entire second from her pb in one race.

Coach has had 4 banned runners.

Current coach has 0 (zero) banned runners. Left the precious coach when she was 18. Has dropped circa 1 second from her pb every single season since she was 16. Not saying she is definitely clean, but those argument aren't convincing.

But given she was definitely dirty while with the Bulgarian coach, it seems unlikely she's running so much faster now not on the rocket fuel.

These times are rubbish.

10.91 might be Wariner's official 100 PR, but if he ran 20.19, he was capable of 10.20-10.25 at that time.

Ditto Naser, 22.50 might be her official 200 PR, but she'd be capable of around 22.0 for sure. That makes 400 time + 2 x 200 PR + 4.1, which is maybe just believable. Very good for a female in fact, so she's probably in 21.80-21.90 shape.

As to what she's on, who knows?

she'd be on stanazolol plus probably an injectable steroid like masteron .also probably EPO and maybe even human growth hormones.

trollism wrote:

Sifansshass wrote:

Current coach has 0 (zero) banned runners. Left the precious coach when she was 18. Has dropped circa 1 second from her pb every single season since she was 16. Not saying she is definitely clean, but those argument aren't convincing.

But given she was definitely dirty while with the Bulgarian coach, it seems unlikely she's running so much faster now not on the rocket fuel.

She was like 12 when she was with the bulgarian coach, it's not inconceivable to be better at 21 than at 18 even when quitting doping. That's when you're 100% she doped in the first place, which is doubtful.

jeff tallon wrote:

she'd be on stanazolol plus probably an injectable steroid like masteron .also probably EPO and maybe even human growth hormones.

Those are Russian type cocktails jeff. If you're right, you'd think she would have tested hot for something or tripped her ABP. But it's still early and a lot of athletes from Bahrain have been caught doping.

Something good. The turnover so high, there was no relaxation... and yet no fatigue.

Sifansshass wrote:

She was like 12 when she was with the bulgarian coach, it's not inconceivable to be better at 21 than at 18 even when quitting doping. That's when you're 100% she doped in the first place, which is doubtful.

She won the IAAF World U18 Championships under Bratanov and was a full time imported athlete. A long way from 12 years old.

Without a positive test, you can't be 100% that she doped under Bratanov, but circumstantially I'm happy to say it's at least 99%.

And in the unlikely event that she then stopped doping under the new coach, she's still accrued the advantage of using this stuff in the past. (Parallel here with the public's distaste for Gatlin; we don't know if he's dirty these days, but he's still had the advantage of using that stuff in the past.)

Athletes should be given the benefit of the doubt when they do extraordinary things, but their associations matter.

Not as good stuff as that Norwegian Nectar apparently!

Explanation - Her Representative is Juan Pineda - regularly associated with dodgy athletes

The more you look about it, the more her backstory looks fishy. The official biography claims that Naser was born in Nigeria from a nigerian mother an an Barhaini father. However, apparently I am hearing that there is nothing from Barhain with her both her parents were Nigerians, which seems confirmed by articles about from her native country. https://www.vanguardngr.com/2017/10/salwa-eid-naser-tale-two-countries-yemi-olus/

Naser was born to Nigerian parents from Anambra State, and was formerly known as Ebelechukwu Agbapuonwu.

I was skeptical because she has a rather light skin complexion compared to the average Nigerian. The father was allegedly invented for propaganda purpose.

Apparently she used to be very 'dark' and bleached her skin, so I went to look for her first competition with Barhain, the Youth Olympic Games in 2014 and WTF ?

2014:

2015:

It really looks like it could be true ??

Any thoughts ??