TUOHY ANY COMPETITION THIS XC SEASON

Starlipper raced a lot last year, into late summer. What the heck is going on there? How deep is that well?

She ran a 104 speed rating in her first race. She barely beat her teammates. She is finished.

She went home DEVASTATED!

She is NOT BACK BABY!!

Her first race was a 104 speed rating (as pointed out above). Last year, at the same race, her speed rating was a 119. Granted, there are valid reasons for starting out easy early on, and she was 1st each time, but a 104? For her? Why take it THAT easy?

I dunno, I'm just feeling she won't be unbeaten this season. Whether it's Masciarelli (if they ever meet up---it would be a shame if they don't), or Hart, or Starliper, or anyone else, I'm just feeling that one or more runners will beat her this year.

Chris P wrote:

What do you guys think? Looks like her coach is holding her back early season?

While starliper and Hart have already run some really Fast Times

Can anyone compete with Tuohy?

Will she wait till the end of the season to run fast?

Can Runners like Brynn brown or Lauren ping really bring it up a notch this year

In the past Tuohy has run a lot of fast times during the season, and has been criticized on this board for doing that. This year it looks like she has only one significant race on her schedule until the State Championship in mid November. Her team is scheduled to run the Manhattan Invitational on October 12.

But, no offense to anyone else, noone has run a time with a SR yet above 155, which implies a time 45 seconds slower than what in the past was a typical fast time for Tuohy (SR 170). Of course it is barely the first week of the season.

Something's just not right this season: wrote:

Her first race was a 104 speed rating (as pointed out above). Last year, at the same race, her speed rating was a 119. Granted, there are valid reasons for starting out easy early on, and she was 1st each time, but a 104? For her? Why take it THAT easy?

I dunno, I'm just feeling she won't be unbeaten this season. Whether it's Masciarelli (if they ever meet up---it would be a shame if they don't), or Hart, or Starliper, or anyone else, I'm just feeling that one or more runners will beat her this year.

Tuohy opted to help pace her teammates for this race. She is not done or even close to being done. This race was just a jog for her.

Was this the same girl where someone posted a link to a article about her training on here and she was doing her easy runs like 30 seconds slower than 5k pace? If so, not surprised if she does poorly. That type of training will catch up to you.

What the heck is a speed rating and what could that possibly have to do with what she will do later this season?

mehhuh wrote:

What the heck is a speed rating and what could that possibly have to do with what she will do later this season?

Speed ratings are done by Bill Meylan of Tully Runners in New York. I don’t know the whole algorithm (it’s been discussed extensively on here) but the goal of the speed ratings is to come up with a standardized measure (the way track times are nearly universal) because of the unique nature of cross country courses. This allows the comparison of runners across the country from each other, or across the years on the same course.

Gotta do your easy runs easy wrote:

Was this the same girl where someone posted a link to a article about her training on here and she was doing her easy runs like 30 seconds slower than 5k pace? If so, not surprised if she does poorly. That type of training will catch up to you.

No, Starliper also had a training blog but it's very reasonable training with most runs in the 7:00-7:45/mi range. The girl that got posted here was Meghan Ford, who ran easy days in 6:15-6:45/mi with a mile PR of 4:55 and 3200 of 10:38. But apparently she reads letsrun, as she posted one of her goals this season is to slow down her easy and long runs and her training weeks 3&4 already looked better.

ric flair wooooooooooo wrote:

Something's just not right this season: wrote:

Her first race was a 104 speed rating (as pointed out above). Last year, at the same race, her speed rating was a 119. Granted, there are valid reasons for starting out easy early on, and she was 1st each time, but a 104? For her? Why take it THAT easy?

I dunno, I'm just feeling she won't be unbeaten this season. Whether it's Masciarelli (if they ever meet up---it would be a shame if they don't), or Hart, or Starliper, or anyone else, I'm just feeling that one or more runners will beat her this year.

Tuohy opted to help pace her teammates for this race. She is not done or even close to being done. This race was just a jog for her.

Here is the video coverage on Milesplit of that race.

No one will beat Touhy this year !!! No one ! Kid is all about team . Look at the results of Red Raiders. She pulled her 2 and 3 runners to 2nd and 3rd in the invite and they won the team title by one . When she needs to unleash the stallions she will. Unbeaten and untied , all year - you heard it from the hounddog first .

Video appears to confirm that little effort was put forth.

Forgive me if I wait to throw her on the scrap heap.

Yeah there's a video of Touhy training this season and she looks to be in incredible shape. This was definitely just a team-building and pacing each other race. I think her and a coach or smart to start easy I think she should run a couple more races fairly easy for her and then start to run really fast in late October November. It's a long season and there's plenty of time for faster runs

Chris P wrote:

Yeah there's a video of Touhy training this season and she looks to be in incredible shape. This was definitely just a team-building and pacing each other race. I think her and a coach or smart to start easy I think she should run a couple more races fairly easy for her and then start to run really fast in late October November. It's a long season and there's plenty of time for faster runs

The video isn't out yet. Only the VLOG version for it which contains a small look at it but is not the full "Workout Wednesday" video. We need to wait for the full video, with all splits and seeing how relaxed she is at different speeds before drawing any conclusions.

Anything other than her dominating this season would be a huge upset/surprise btw, but doubt it will happen she has been too consistent.

Her competition will be Sydney Masciarelli alone....

Agree that Masciarelli presents the most serious challenge to Touhy.

Don't rule Katelynn Hart. She just won her first race (Hornet Red Devil Invite) by over a minute, even though she was misdirected off course and had to double back to complete the course properly. And then fall in the creek at KLP. And still set the course record...

https://il.milesplit.com/articles/266805/katelynne-hart-romps-to-big-win-at-hornet-devil-invite

smugmug123 wrote:

Agree that Masciarelli presents the most serious challenge to Touhy.

It is starting to look unlikely Tuohy and Masciarelli will race against each other. Tuohy seems set on NXN, Masciarelli seems set on FL, and not running 2 National meets. Tuohy is supposed to be at Manhattan. If Masciarelli does not race there, when will they race?

arunnery660 wrote:

Her competition will be Sydney Masciarelli alone....

Tuohy wears the crown . If Masciarelli or Hart wants to be the queen they have to get up the nerve and race her.