5 Facts About June Eastwood, Who Will Become the First Transgender Woman to Run an NCAA Division I Cross Country Race

Two categories in sports:

XX and XY

stop the insanity.

Lack of Understanding wrote:

This article is a disgraceful example of shoddy letsrun “journalism.”

I sincerely hope that June doesn’t read the article because the lack of empathy and understanding is clear.

The existential angst that transgender men and women experience is clearly beyond the comprehension of the letsrun trust fund owners. It’s a sad commentary that they feel the need to attack someone who is trying to live their true life.

These type of articles can lead to self harm. Wasn’t one death caused by Letsrun enough?

A lot of us are trying and truly don't know what is insulting to the transgender community. This is a first in the NCAA for D1 XC. Well, maybe not a first, but the first we are all openly aware of. Could you possible edit the article and show us what the respectful way to word whatever phrases come across poorly?

It is accurate and does not need to be changed.

Being immersed in the theatre and acting world in NYC has really opened my eyes and my heart. I have had friends in the LGBTQ lifestyle that have OD and/or taken their lives because of the bullying and the hate.

We will find out what kind of advantages or disadvantages she has from a competitive standpoint. It will shed a lot of light on that issue and rules can be changed or modified if needed.

However, this is a real human being. Someone that has the courage to put their person life on display. If your so ignorant as to think that she’s doing it for the attention, you have no idea.

I have a very close acting friend that was a former NCAA Division I track and field athlete. Not a slouch either. We are talking about someone that made it to the NCAAs in multiple events as a female. He transitioned to a male. Gun to your head you would never ever know it. He’s now a very well known actor and advocate.

He said that “things get a little tricky when men transition to a woman and compete in binary sports. She will retain the athleticism but the changes to her body from all the hormone treatments will make her incapable of attaining anything near the performances”

We need to respect that she is a human being and by even debating how she should be categorized is ignorant, in my opinion. I’m a journalist myself. I’ve written for the Houston Chronicle, ask.com, and a variety of other publications. If Letsrun really wants to be considered journalism, they can find all their answers in the AP Stylebook. Short of that, they can contact respected media outlets and find out how they handle it.

They wouldn’t leave it up to the monkeys to run the zoo. I love LRC even after having been crucified on here (self-inflicted). This is one thing I feel they are not handling properly.

Love is love. Hate has no place. I choose to treat this with respect and compassion.

~Kevin

Two. Categories.

Tell your sob story to the biological female that June bumps from Nationals or All-American status.

Lack of Understanding wrote:

The existential angst that transgender men and women experience is clearly beyond the comprehension of the letsrun trust fund owners. It’s a sad commentary that they feel the need to attack someone who is trying to live their true life.

Wealth shaming. Is that where we are are in this day and age? 2019 and you can still put people down just because of the circumstances they were born in. Disgusting.

Good answer. Claiming it’s “hate” to think biological males have no place in women’s sports is such a pathetic and weak ploy. It’s the same ploy as calling someone “racist” if they disagree with you.

Give us a compelling reason. Until then, get off your high moral horse because your arguments are garbage.

I enjoy women's sports but looking at the topic objectively, we can't allow women to have their own category of paid sports or college scholarships. Now that males have found a way to dip into the other category by taking hormones, lawsuits will come from real. Wonen who can claim harm. Lawsuits will also come from transgenders who don't want to take hormones.

Kevin, I agree with both of your points here.

Obviously she's a real human being deserving of empathy and respect. And at the same time there are some major questions about the fairness of MTF trans athletes competing as women. But I'm not sure that what you're saying here follows:

Rojo has always been pretty respectful of trans athletes as people, pointing out that what they're going through is difficult, using their preferred pronouns, not blaming them personally for what he sees as failings of sport's governing bodies. All this article said was that this is going to be a very interesting season and that June's performance will have a lot of implications for MTF regulation going forward. That's basically what you said.

As for this take, I disagree pretty strongly:

While there's no doubt that LR is sloppy when it comes to style, they're actually pretty good journalists when it comes to substance. They fact check, they give people the opportunity to comment. And this MTF athlete issue is one area where I wouldn't really hold up the traditional print media as exemplars. They have been extraordinarily shoddy in actually reporting the facts, and they've been pretty biased as well. For instance, they almost never mentioned the fact that Semenya was biologically intersex, which led to a popular belief that she was being punished for something analagous to Michael Phelps' long arms. (I realize the MTF issue is not precisely the same as the Semenya issue, but they're closely related.)

Typical leftist blather wrote:

the hyena you’ll see wrote:

Two. Categories.

Tell your sob story to the biological female that June bumps from Nationals or All-American status.

Good answer. Claiming it’s “hate” to think biological males have no place in women’s sports is such a pathetic and weak ploy. It’s the same ploy as calling someone “racist” if they disagree with you.

Give us a compelling reason. Until then, get off your high moral horse because your arguments are garbage.

You’re right. It’s not hate to disagree. I am torn on the entire issue. What is hateful or hurtful is the way that people express their disapproval. You can disagree all you want there’s nothing wrong with that.

What we are talking about is the dialogue. They way a media outlet would portray her.

Continuing to remind everyone that “June, born a male,...yadda yadda yadda.” Its a passive-aggressive way of reporting that attempts to push a negative narrative. You see the same thing in reporting about other issues where, for instance, a person’s race is not a part of the story. “”Darius, the third black man to be arrested for the crime this week...”.

Claiming that anyone that disagrees with your disagreement is unreasonable is no different than claiming all people who disagree are bigots. What this topic is about is the manner in which Letsrun, if it wants to be a true media outlet, talks about June. That’s all.

Like I said, other mainstream media, when talking about trans people, either only refer to them by their identifying gender or, if it calls for it, that they are transgendered. They don’t go the extra mile to identify them with any other further explanation because it isn’t needed and would be considered poor form.

That’s the actual thing that’s being discussed. Not wether or not she should be allowed to compete. Just how it is reported in the media.

Kevin

ps: it’s not a “sob story”. It’s real people and real lives lost. Don’t be a dick. If you said that to my face there would be a huge problem. Take your tough-guy remarks to someone else. I’m the wrong car for that.

800dude

Hey man. I agree with you. They’ve always been respectful as to how my story played out years ago and even now. All I’m taking about is that there is already a proper protocol to all this.

The AP Style Guide is the one resource that all journalists should have. It’s thicker than the NCAA rule book. Pretty much spells everything out. If the answer on how to approach something isn’t there, I would reach out to a respected journalist from a media source that would be considered a primary source.

Asking the readers to decide how to write about something is not the way I would go.

To the rest of it, I totally agree.

Kevin

The biologically female athletes that must compete against June are also real human beings. Are they not also worthy of fair treatment? I'm just a high school coach, but I see my girls pour their heart and souls into their sport. If my desire to protect the integrity of their competitive endeavours makes me an "exclusionist", so be it.

I’m not talking about the argument of wether or not June should be racing. That’s not the respect I’m talking about.

Do I think it’s fair? No. Is it within the rules? Yes. Do I think June is going to dominate? No.

I’m only strictly talking about how we treat June in the way we talk and how we discuss her.

These are two separate issues.

~Kevin

Kevin Hadsell wrote:

Viking21 wrote:

The biologically female athletes that must compete against June are also real human beings. Are they not also worthy of fair treatment? I'm just a high school coach, but I see my girls pour their heart and souls into their sport. If my desire to protect the integrity of their competitive endeavours makes me an "exclusionist", so be it.

I’m not talking about the argument of wether or not June should be racing. That’s not the respect I’m talking about.

Do I think it’s fair? No. Is it within the rules? Yes. Do I think June is going to dominate? No.

I’m only strictly talking about how we treat June in the way we talk and how we discuss her.

These are two separate issues.

~Kevin

I don't think that it is unfair to June to respect her decision regarding her own sexuality while also being extremely critical of her decision to compete in a protected athletic class originally implemented specifically to allow female athletes to compete fairly against competitors who have not benefited from a lifetime of chromosomal advantage. So June, if you are reading this, you do you, but please spare a thought for the women you are disadvantaging. Just because something is legal does not make it right.

You don't even have to read the article to understand the authors bias. NCAA handbook states she can compete if she suppresses testosterone. DEM the rules.

No more insanity wrote:

Two categories in sports:

XX and XY

stop the insanity.

If your so upset you can contact the NCAA, get involved...actually do something..

It's also hilarious the moderators lock their own threads to avoid anonymous poster. For a bunch of strong conservatives that's some pretty weak behavior. This site reads more or more like an alt right media source everyday.

Signed,

A republican

I feel like 2019 is the year of people wanting to be offended by everything. In our sport gender and sex have to be one and the same thing regarding classification. If you thinkJune/Johnathan doesn't have an advantage then you are ignorant. Referring to someones sex or "ex" gender shouldn't be offensive as it is A FACT.

I am african American and have a dark skin tone. If I straighten my hair or somehow reduce the melanin in my skin can I start telling people I am white and caucasian and expect them to be on board with it? NO and I wouldn't be mad either.

A few years ago there were articles about a man who believed he was a little girl and even got "adopted". Are you going to refer to him as a little girl?

https://www.louderwithcrowder.com/14159/

People can have their own beliefs but you do not have to force them on others. Especially in the science/biology department.