Also what part of speech is “helping” in each sentence? Active verb? Participle? Gerund?
Also what part of speech is “helping” in each sentence? Active verb? Participle? Gerund?
I appreciate your help. Helping is a verb in the first sentence. Other than perhaps colloquially, it shouldn't be in the second one.
In the second (correct) sentence "helping" is a gerund and correctly takes the possessive pronoun.
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The first sentence ordinarily would not be used, but could be construed to mean something like this: "When you are helping me, I appreciate you."
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But "Thank you for your help" or "Thank you for helping me" works about as well and avoids the potential confusion.
It’s definitely not “I appreciate YOU’RE helping me”
It depends on what you are trying to convey.
The first (you helping me), you are expressing appreciation for the person, not necessarily the action of the help.
The second (your helping me), you are expressing appreciation for the act of helping, not necessarily for the person who did the helping.
I appreciate youre help
‘Thank you’ works too.
As a card-carrying grammar nazi, this is correct. Thank you. "I appreciate YOU helping..." is commonly heard these days, especially informally, and is arguably becoming accepted due its usage. But the gerund of "YOUR helping" is absolutely correct.
p.n. wrote:
In the second (correct) sentence "helping" is a gerund and correctly takes the possessive pronoun.
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The first sentence ordinarily would not be used, but could be construed to mean something like this: "When you are helping me, I appreciate you."
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But "Thank you for your help" or "Thank you for helping me" works about as well and avoids the potential confusion.
Why weigh in when you have no idea and are dead wrong? You should keep the old Twain adage in mind: "Better to keep your mouth shut and appear stupid than to open it and remove all doubt."
Capiche? wrote:
I appreciate your help. Helping is a verb in the first sentence. Other than perhaps colloquially, it shouldn't be in the second one.
Which is it?’’ wrote:
Also what part of speech is “helping” in each sentence? Active verb? Participle? Gerund?
The latter is correct. Also, participles and gerunds are not parts of speech.
https://ontariotraining.net/grammar-tip-pronouns-with-gerunds/ding ding wrote:
"I appreciate YOU helping..." is commonly heard these days, especially informally, and is arguably becoming accepted due its usage. But the gerund of "YOUR helping" is absolutely correct.
Nothing is more "absolutely correct" than common usage. Language belongs to the people, not the scribes!
Bad Wigins wrote:
ding ding wrote:
"I appreciate YOU helping..." is commonly heard these days, especially informally, and is arguably becoming accepted due its usage. But the gerund of "YOUR helping" is absolutely correct.
Nothing is more "absolutely correct" than common usage. Language belongs to the people, not the scribes!
Me and my friends agree with B-dub here. Whomever disagrees should of saw his post before they thought it was right for them to of ran their elitist mouths. If you don't listen to him and I, your a moran.
ding ding wrote:
"I appreciate YOU helping..." is commonly heard these days, especially informally, and is arguably becoming accepted due its usage. But the gerund of "YOUR helping" is absolutely correct.
"YOU helping" isn't incorrect. "Helping me" is a participial phrase modifying the noun "you." It doesn't have to be offset by a comma because it's at the end of the sentence, modifying the preceding noun. It's probably not what most people are intending to say, but it's not wrong.
I think the way you can tell what people mean is by the emphasis in their speech. Often times the "you" is said quickly, with minimal stress, and the speaker quickly gets to the "helping." In that case, their intended meaning is probably "your."
When people really mean to say, "I really appreciate YOU helping me," they typically slow the cadence of their speech and linger on the "you." It makes it clear that you could drop a period in that sentence after the "you," and the only reason you're continuing is to emphasize what "you" did.
I know what it’s not wrote:
It’s definitely not “I appreciate YOU’RE helping me”
It's "I appreciate (that) you are helping me", hence contracted.
I appreciate your help.
I appreciate you helping.
....has to be by far the hardest language to learn as a non English speaking adult. And us Muricans just keep bleating "Speak English if you want to live here". Yeah right. Good luck with that. We can't learn the metric system but you have to learn to speak a language where the first letter of our alphabet has 6 distinct different ways to pronounce it. And the 5 vowels (or is it 6, 7, or 8?) have over 20 pronunciations in total. USA! USA! USA!
"Your helping me" is unquestionably the correct grammar. But put me in the camp that doesn't object to your using the more common incorrect grammar in the least.
I appreciate your help with xyz.
I appreciate you for helping me with xyz.
Both see okay to me. First sentence seems colloquial but that does not make it grammatically incorrect.
Who really GAF is the correct answer. Do think it would/does bother geniuses like Einstein, Pasteur, Edison, Newton, Trump, etc? No, they wouldn't/couldn't give a shite.
grammarian n wrote:
I appreciate your help with xyz.
I appreciate you for helping me with xyz.
Both see okay to me. First sentence seems colloquial but that does not make it grammatically incorrect.
Those are good sentences, but not the two that the OP asked about.