DONOVAN BRAZIER: A 1500m man SPECIALIZING in the 800m

We know you want attention but you post such nonsense. Nobody can take you seriously.

1:39/3:25 by time he is retired?

I would estimate Brazier will be a faster version of Symmonds once he gets his tactics right. Symmond also had great endurance shown by a 3;35 1500. As with Symmonds despite the fast 1500 Brazier will focus on the 800m

VIPAM wrote:

I remember the name Donovan Brazier when he ran 4:07 in high school and wondered why he was in more mile races. He never trained for the 1500m/mile or cross country...yet he also posted a sub 15:10 x-country 5km. Donovan will never be a 44.9 400m man but he doea have good speed for an 800m runner and great speed for a 1500m specialist combine with uncanny endurance of low mileage.

Donovan jyst like Ajee will never hold the 800m or 1500m WR but can be world threats in either event. If they focused their training on the 1500m (while in their prime) I think both will be better at the meteric mile then they will ever be at 800m. It will also might vastly improve their 800m tactics, pb, and ways they can run the shorter event.

Capabilities with several 1500m yrs training:

D. Brazier 3:28.2

A. Wilson 3:55.4

You like them don't you. You really really like them.

Yeah the future of USA 800m/1500m medalists

MAPIV wrote:

We know you want attention but you post such nonsense. Nobody can take you seriously.

Why are those predictions so far fetched? He just ran 3:38 in his first race at the distance with his focus elsewhere. At the very least one can conjecture that DB can run a lot faster. Would you bet $1000 he can't go 3:32?

nothyperbole wrote:

MAPIV wrote:

We know you want attention but you post such nonsense. Nobody can take you seriously.

Why are those predictions so far fetched? He just ran 3:38 in his first race at the distance with his focus elsewhere. At the very least one can conjecture that DB can run a lot faster. Would you bet $1000 he can't go 3:32?

Did you read the OPs prediction? He said nothing about 3:32. VIPAM does this frequently because he thinks he may be right one day, but he is like 2 for 50, and he often bumps his 2 correct threads.

wth is this?

1) Wilson is a busted doper

2) Brazier is a mediocre talent

2 for 50 ...LOL hey troll your just as delusional as you're obessed with me.

What is with Letsrun’s obsession with moving people up in distance?

Same thing has been said about Murphy and he has yet to crush a 1500 or mile. That may change tomorrow.

Brazier, who spells his first name with two A's, not two O's, has run 1:43.55/3:37 and is running a career high of 35 mpw now. The odds of him running low 3:30s are pretty good. He has a great chance at breaking Johnny Gray's American record of 1:42.60 in the 800m this year after getting the indoor record. His ultimate ceiling in the 1500m depends on how seriously he takes it.

Hdhdfdhdh wrote:

What is with Letsrun’s obsession with moving people up in distance?

Same thing has been said about Murphy and he has yet to crush a 1500 or mile. That may change tomorrow.

I really find this obsession so odd. We all have to remember here too people; our american athletes are under heavy USADA testing. So when someone runs a 3:35/1500 or a 2:12 marathon people flood this board talking about how 'slow' these times are. Give these athletes a break.

vomit parade wrote:

wth is this?

1) Wilson is a busted doper

2) Brazier is a mediocre talent

hahaha what? Dude you dont know track and field. How are you gonna say Brazier is mediocre talent?? Dude can split 45.xx, 1:43, 3:37. And he's 22 years old! The dude is RAW talent. You probably think your 18:30 5k is more impressive huh buddy? Move along.

nothyperbole wrote:

MAPIV wrote:

We know you want attention but you post such nonsense. Nobody can take you seriously.

Why are those predictions so far fetched? He just ran 3:38 in his first race at the distance with his focus elsewhere. At the very least one can conjecture that DB can run a lot faster. Would you bet $1000 he can't go 3:32?

Spend a bit of time reviewing IAAF 800m & 1500m historic results. I believe 136 men worldwide have raced sub-1:44 800m. I believe 18 or so U.S. men have raced sub-1:44 800m. Now review how few U.S. sub-1:44 men have also raced sub-3:35 1500m. A thousand dollar bet I would more than likely win regarding Brazier and sub-3:32 1500m.

Last 2 posters thank you for some sanity amidst the trolls and nonesense regarding Brazier not fully tapped 800m/1500m potential.

Remember how Kaki worked for years and years and eventually got down to 3:31? I could see Brazier doing the same. The 3:28 prediction is lolworthy.

We high 800 runner can go sub 45 now outside Rudisha?

Off 45xx relay he's a 400/800m runner .

Even if he could get down to 3:32 he's still got more potential at 800m

ukathleticscoach wrote:

We high 800 runner can go sub 45 now outside Rudisha?

Off 45xx relay he's a 400/800m runner .

Even if he could get down to 3:32 he's still got more potential at 800m

This is a great point. I think Brazier's definitely got a high ceiling in the 1500m/mile but his shot at a medal lies in the 800m. Even assuming he can run 3:30-3:32 (which in itself is an optimistic prediction; I can't see him running faster than that with his speed orientation), he's not sniffing a medal with that kinda speed with the way the 1500m currently is. On the other hand, in the 800m he's currently in contention to medal or win worlds and even has the WL. Murphy has a very similar set of wheels and range but look what happened when he got too ambitious and tried the 8/15 double at USAs in 2017. If it ain't broke, don't fix it.

REMEMBER how many posters who said Tirunesh had too much speed to ever be good at 10000m when I stated"she would be one of the 2nd sub 30 min 10000m runner and also got the 3rd correct? Many s5ated both had way too much speed and was more of 1500m/5000m type runners and yet Tirunesh is now a sub 2:18 marathoner.

Very few but there are some raw athletes that can have hella speed and still morph into legitimate ELITE distance runners. Also look at Lagat, Kipchoge, Bekele, Gebresellasie sub 3:32.5 1500m who have conquered the marathon.

I'm not asking you to believe Brazier can run sub 3:30...I'm informing you that if he took it seriously and focused enough years he will get under 3:30. You dont run sub 15:10 in high school xcountry and 4:07 mile off less then 30 miles without uncanny endurance. In his case yet to be tapped as he still under 40 mpw. He is a slightly better version of Seb Coe, Stev Cram, and Sydney Maree oh yeah and Saud Aouita 1:43.8 800m in one season and 27:20 in only 10000m less than 18 months apart. He is only 22 give him time to get some 45-55 mile weeks for a season or two and watch him all the way to 3000m possibly 5000m.