The euphoria on the TV has been tampered by the locals questioning this entire thing.
The euphoria on the TV has been tampered by the locals questioning this entire thing.
Of course fake news like Yahoo will continue to sensationalize it.
Alooooha wrote:
I’m in Hawaii and there seems to be more to this story...trust me.
Does "more" mean someone was accessing her vagina and she needs an alibi?
Biographical movie. Maybe they’ll get Tom Hanks to play her.
She's a "yoga instructor" - that explains a lot.
fisky wrote:
alpha wrote:
Poor woman had ZERO sense of direction, and possibly even less common sense. There is virtually NO place on Maui more than a days hike out of, that is if you have the presence of mind to follow downward slopes and flowing water.
This.
I checked out the park on google maps. It's narrow but surprisingly long and runs mostly northwest to southeast. Her car was parked on the westerly side of the park. If she had simply gotten some rough bearings at sunrise and walked west, southwest, or south, she could have been out of the park in half a day.
I couldn't find the waterfall where she was found on google maps, but it sounded like it was several miles in a general north direction from where she parked her car.
There are probably not preserve boundary markings all the way around the park telling someone they are leaving the park. She was found 4 miles away. That puts her outside the preserve boundaries, presumably to the north to east, away from the neighborhoods. It's continuous forest there, rough terrain, probably no trails until you get to Hana on the east coast if heading east.
I orienteered for about a dozen years, won a lot of orienteering meets, and also sucked at a lot of orienteering meets. I was also a meet director for a meet per year for 10 years. I've spent a lot of time in woods with a map and compass, and observed hundreds of people orienteering. I can easily see how someone can get turned around in the woods. Even if someone can orient themselves to compass direction at sun up and sun down (assuming not hampered by clouds/overcast), you can lose that sense of direction in just a few moments of wandering around trees/brush/terrain as soon as the sun is high enough that you can't tell.
I did see some photos of the forest near where the bike trails are near the parking lot, and that seemed pretty open, but off trail in the tropic wilderness is no joke. There is a reason you don't have an extended trail network through those forests. When visiting Hawaii, I've often thought about how hard it would be to do a traverse of some of the islands like Kauai, or to hold a wilderness race akin to the Alaska Wilderness Classic (typically 150-200 miles traverse over wilderness, no roads, human power). It would be much tougher in Hawaii even with much shorter distances, and people would probably dies in flash floods and such things. Read about the Blue Hole hike in Kauai, and imagine continuing east across the island to Waimea/Napali coast. I wonder if it's ever been done?
fisky wrote:
The ironic thing is that if she'd had even the most basic wilderness skills, she'd have found her way out in a day or so or found her way to a clearing and waited for a rescue helicopter. And now she has a million dollar book deal... sometimes life just isn't fair.
Ha ha, yes! An unfortunate experience but I'm sure the pain will be eased by the book deal, exclusive TV interviews, etc...
Maui, contrary to popular belief, has some pretty rugged terrain and deep dense forest. Though the island isn't huge, it's home to national park land that get's deep and lonesome. A quick wrong turn to take a wiz could turn troublesome real quick... even if you aren't far from society. Look at that lady in Maine who ventured off the A/T and got lost and died.
Glad she’s alive, but got damn. I read some of her comments and she kept talking about following her intuition and gut, and how she always relies so strongly on that. Translated, she’s an idiot who thinks she’s right all the time, even when she isn’t. She basically did the opposite of everything she should have done.
I’ve been lost in the wood before. Too much tree coverage to see out and way too rugged of terrain to be able to pick a direction and just go that way until I hit something.
I was lucky. It was a run around the base of a mountain that was supposed to be 14miles. The trail petered out half way around and I thought I could go up and over the mountain if all else failed. I needed up so lost! Just walking/jogging around the rugged wilderness for over 7hrs.
Luckily, I hit a single track trail. Picked a direction and ran. A mountain biker came down the trail about 10 minutes later. I was 18 miles from my car!!
I ended up running six miles to his truck and he gave me a ride to his car.
If things would have gone a bit different I would’ve been in big trouble.
This is great.
I am looking forward to the book and the movie.
How the hell did she get lost on a island? Wouldn't one just walk out to the beach and then walk until he/she hits civilization?
Use your head next time wrote:
How the hell did she get lost on a island? Wouldn't one just walk out to the beach and then walk until he/she hits civilization?
funny how when she was feared dead she was a physical therapist now that she is found she is a yoga instructor. Im guessing she always told people she was a PT but then once the press started looking into it the revealed that she took a few classes in a PTA program at a community college and then dropped out.
Angry vegan horde, slaughter potentially carnivorous pigs in search of her remains in pigs' intestines!
What a load of BS!!!!
1) On an island.
2) Preserve is only 2000 acres
3) Area is serviced by a road.
Roads circle the island
4) There are marked trails
5) There are maintained ditch/irrigation paths
6 ) There are dozens of spas, cottages and campgrounds within a mile or so of the preserve.
7) ANY chosen direction would lead to safety within hours.
8) Lights from Makawao would be CLEARLY visible from any high point.
Sounds like this guy ...
The second time he got "lost" they didn't look very hard. The first time, he told his mother that he heard wolves howling ... uhhh no, not in Colorado. (there may be a rare stray wolf from Yellowstone, but most likely not near Alamosa.)
https://alamosanews.com/article/hiker-lost-at-dunes-was-not-first-time
Vegan yoga instructor! Figures. Probably delirious and feeling disoriented before she even set off. Wouldn't have happened if she'd had some decent meat intake before she left.
In the Army I’ve seen people get lost on land navigation courses when they have a MAP and COMPASS! Nothing surprises me.
Alan
Hayduke wrote:
Use your head next time wrote:
How the hell did she get lost on a island? Wouldn't one just walk out to the beach and then walk until he/she hits civilization?
funny how when she was feared dead she was a physical therapist now that she is found she is a yoga instructor. Im guessing she always told people she was a PT but then once the press started looking into it the revealed that she took a few classes in a PTA program at a community college and then dropped out.
She’s licensed as a physical therapist in the proud state of Hawaii. My guess is that (this being Maui) yoga instructing pays better and being on the news for 3 weeks can’t be terrible for your yoga business.
Yogi bear wrote:
She's a "yoga instructor" - that explains a lot.
What does it explain besides she's too hot for you get?
@yogi bear wrote:
Yogi bear wrote:
She's a "yoga instructor" - that explains a lot.
What does it explain besides she's too hot for you get?
Have you seen her? Even before disappearing, she was 35 and looked older. Maybe in the Midwest people would call her attractive...