Congrats to Jakob Ingebrigtsen for finishing 12th at World Jr XC. He's not afraid to lay it on the line.

He was 12th, dummy.

I am VERY impressed with his top-ten finish. There are true distance specialists who would not have faired this well had they the guts to even line up. *cough* Rupp *cough*

It literally says 12th in the graphic they used for the tweet hahaha. Dumbass.

Numbers iz hard wrote:

He was 12th, dummy.

The point is- he ran and gave his all. I wish our top group of 1500-10k men and women were there.

reminds me of Ritz and the lay-it-all-on-the-line Ritz we saw back in the late 90's and early 2000's.

runn wrote:

Numbers iz hard wrote:

He was 12th, dummy.

The point is- he ran and gave his all. I wish our top group of 1500-10k men and women were there.

So if I get 5th at my national championship and gave it my all I can call myself medalist? That's very stupid thinking. He got 12th and should be mentioned as 12th, not top 10. Only if people ahead of him are officially caught cheating or doping he would move up.

Btw, someone can give it his all and get 97th. But please, stick to the true place he got and don't make it better.

Some naive individuals still think Ritz staged his flops at the end of FL 99 and FL 2000... Anyone who has run all out knows that Ritz didn't fake it.

What position did he finish out of the under 20s?

Disappointed in him!

He races against senior athletes in track.

Why would he choose to step down and race against jr.s at this point.

On a positive note nice to see him run xcountry when most American elites choose not.

Odd choice wrote:

He races against senior athletes in track.

Why would he choose to step down and race against jr.s at this point.

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Looks like U20 ran faster than the seniors by 15 seconds per mile. Maybe the senior race was more tactical?

Congrats to the 11 athletes who gave their all and finished in front of the European Senior 5,000 meter champion. As well as all those who gave their all and finished behind him.

I agree that it would be great if even more elite runners competed in the various junior and senior races. So congratulations to the elite runners from African who showed up and put it on the line. I love cross country and my dream is that one year the U.S. will put together a dream team to send to World Cross Country.

looking at the splits.... wrote:

Looks like U20 ran faster than the seniors by 15 seconds per mile. Maybe the senior race was more tactical?

No, the seniors ran further up the museum roof, so each lap was actually longer. The junior races were a bit under 8km and the senior races a bit over 10km (10,240m I think).

The way people talk about Ingebrigtsen on here, I assumed he was the best junior distance runner in the world by a wide margin. Kind of surprised to hear that a 12th place finish is a good result for him after seeing him hyped as if he is a generational talent.

As an incoming college freshman, Ritz finished 3rd overall in that race.

You're an idjit if you don't get the point of this thread.

12th is good? wrote:

The way people talk about Ingebrigtsen on here, I assumed he was the best junior distance runner in the world by a wide margin. Kind of surprised to hear that a 12th place finish is a good result for him after seeing him hyped as if he is a generational talent.

He probably is, at least that we can be reasonably sure is clean and a junior. And he is obviously a generational talent as far as non-Africa is concerned, and his best event is the 1500m.

rojo wrote:

I want to congratulate the teen for having the guts to race the world's best. He's a 1500 star and yet he stepped up, gave it his all and finished 12th in an 8k. So let's give him some props for not staying in a hole somewhere and training in obscurity.

For a guy with as smooth as a stride as him, the course must have been the opposite of ideal for him.

Let's hope he keeps coming back. The pros who have never even tried the event are numerous.

Much respect.

https://twitter.com/letsrundotcom/status/1111960062778585088

Note: We initially incorrectly stated he was 10th. He was 12th.

Watching the race live Jakob struggled on the hills which is not surprising considering his size. He tried to maintain contact on the 3rd lap but every time there was a hill it was hard for him. Well done to him.

rojo wrote:

I want to congratulate the teen for having the guts to race the world's best. He's a 1500 star and yet he stepped up, gave it his all and finished 12th in an 8k. So let's give him some props for not staying in a hole somewhere and training in obscurity.

For a guy with as smooth as a stride as him, the course must have been the opposite of ideal for him.

Let's hope he keeps coming back. The pros who have never even tried the event are numerous.

Much respect.

https://twitter.com/letsrundotcom/status/1111960062778585088

Note: We initially incorrectly stated he was 10th. He was 12th.

Jakob and some other "smooth" guys (including some Africans) did have a tough time on the course. Everyone should take a look at the IAAF report on the race - and look at the pictures. There might have been two actual juniors who finished ahead of Jakob. Might. It's a joke. The IAAF needs to start doing what soccer did to stop the nations who were cheating age-wise in that sport (mainly Africans). Start using the MRI wrist test. C'mon Mr. Coe, let's clean things up all the way. Get rid of the drugs on top of that and maybe, just maybe, you can get Europeans interested in distance running. On a side note it has to mentioned that in doing this Coe would be up against some powerful forces. Forces who are determined to condition Westerners, and their efforts to give Africans a lot of chances to cheat to mirror their efforts in other sports and indeed in things that are far beyond athletics. The West is under attack on a lot of fronts. Laugh now because you won't be laughing later.

8k is a bit long for Jakob right now, even though he really is more of a 5k guy - eventually anyway. His raw speed isn't very good.

trollism wrote:

What position did he finish out of the under 20s?

He was either first or second. Like the guy said earlier go to the IAAF site and look at the pictures. It's a travesty. It's hilarious at the same time. The E. Africans have no shame.