We did a Q & A with Katelyn Tuohy before her mile at Millrose

Hanzo wrote:

Workout was 5x1k at 3:20 in Dec 2016, roughly her 5k pace or slightly slower at the moment, with 2 minutes rest. Even her last rep looked very controlled, and she beat the times by 2-3 sec each.

The coach did one thing well, which was holding her back - even in this workout, he told her "we do not, NOT run faster at the end of it!", indicating that Tuohy has a tendency to kill herself on the last rep and needs to be held back if the workout is not designed to be a "go to the well" workout.

That’s crazy how the workout that was posted online on November 30th was done in December!

I will grant you i was wrong on the recovery, it was 2:00. But it looks like her best time that year was 17:36, or around 3:31 per K...so I wouldn’t say 3:20 was 5k pace or slower. Not insane to do it, but dang that’s pretty tough you must admit! I think it just speaks to how athletically gifted she is. It’s crazy to think of a 14 year old being able to do that so easily.

In Jan 2017, 5 weeks after the workout she ran 4:48 mile and 9:42 3k indoor.

VDOT 4:48 mile: 62.2 - 3:18/k 5k pace

VDOT 9:42 3k: 60.9 - 3:22/k 5k pace

The 17:36 was on a very tough cross country course. I would say the effort in her workout was around 5k pace, it was not on track so maybe a little bit faster, but definitely not 3k pace or faster.

Also as 14 she already had 4 years of specific running training and lots of soccer, so she was closer to her potential than most 14-year olds.

Hanzo wrote:

Workout was 5x1k at 3:20 in Dec 2016, roughly her 5k pace or slightly slower at the moment, with 2 minutes rest. Even her last rep looked very controlled, and she beat the times by 2-3 sec each.

The coach did one thing well, which was holding her back - even in this workout, he told her "we do not, NOT run faster at the end of it!", indicating that Tuohy has a tendency to kill herself on the last rep and needs to be held back if the workout is not designed to be a "go to the well" workout.

I'm sure that will change; if there's one pattern I've ever noticed is nearly all distance elites and semi-pros get faster as they progress their workout (i.e. 60,59,59,58,58,57,57,55) Unlike how many HS'ers hammer the first few and try to hang on to that goal time.

I hope the race was easy because that's a poor translation of a workout to a race otherwise.

See the difference when an interviewer can relate to a subject. Jump to 6:57 to see a much more relaxed, "verbose" Katelyn Tuohy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E12z1ZCu9FM&t=445s

interviewer matters wrote:

See the difference when an interviewer can relate to a subject. Jump to 6:57 to see a much more relaxed, "verbose" Katelyn Tuohy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E12z1ZCu9FM&t=445s

Yeah I thought that was really interesting Katelyn seemed totally more relaxed and different in that interview

Astrid wrote:

interviewer matters wrote:

See the difference when an interviewer can relate to a subject. Jump to 6:57 to see a much more relaxed, "verbose" Katelyn Tuohy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E12z1ZCu9FM&t=445s

Yeah I thought that was really interesting Katelyn seemed totally more relaxed and different in that interview

She does better with interviewers like Billy Cvecko and Emma Abrahamson. Not surprising considering most of the other interviewers( including- if not especially emphasized- the Brojos and Gault) are terribly boring. Certainly would have been better to have someone else other than the clowns on here interview her.

Maybe she was creeped out by the middle aged men getting worked up about her training cycles and interval workouts, so put up some healthy public boundaries.

CreepedOut wrote:

Maybe she was creeped out by the middle aged men getting worked up about her training cycles and interval workouts, so put up some healthy public boundaries.

White Knight alert!

She is running too much for her age. She racing too many national class races for her age. Both things typically result in early peaking. I predict that she peaks at age 18. Granted, she will set all of the HS records but that also would mean she doesn’t come close to Shelby.

Astrid wrote:

interviewer matters wrote:

See the difference when an interviewer can relate to a subject. Jump to 6:57 to see a much more relaxed, "verbose" Katelyn Tuohy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E12z1ZCu9FM&t=445s

Yeah I thought that was really interesting Katelyn seemed totally more relaxed and different in that interview

Absolutely nothing was in those answers either.

Too much too soon wrote:

She is running too much for her age. She racing too many national class races for her age. Both things typically result in early peaking. I predict that she peaks at age 18. Granted, she will set all of the HS records but that also would mean she doesn’t come close to Shelby.

agree. If she doesn't come close to a top 3 runner in the World, she will have only her HS coach to blame for the failure, and herself for her greedy work ethic and lack of patience.