Devin Dixon of Texas A&M DESTROYS American collegiate record - runs 1:45.27 - at altitude!!

LetsRun.com wrote:

Since the meet was at 3217 feet of altitude, the NCAA will actually convert the time down to a 1:44.97 for NCAA entry purposes.

So should we count it as the American record with an asterisk since Gray's record is 1:45.00?

Dixon's previous indoor pb was 1:47.47 whereas his outdoor pb is 1:45.62.

As Lee Evans proved, a 400 at altitude is actually faster than one at sea level. The 800 is close to being being neutral.

altitude conversion lover wrote:

So should we count it as the American record with an asterisk since Gray's record is 1:45.00?

Perhaps a thread with the subject line of "Sorry to burst your bubble Johnny Gray fans........."

Lmao rojo was heated about that

altitude conversion lover wrote:

LetsRun.com wrote:

Since the meet was at 3217 feet of altitude, the NCAA will actually convert the time down to a 1:44.97 for NCAA entry purposes.

So should we count it as the American record with an asterisk since Gray's record is 1:45.00?

Great run of course, but 3000ft isn't really altitude to be honest, especially when racing the 800m.

The NCAA converter is always so generous.

Dixon has a really fast 400 for an 800 runner (45.22) Kind of like Mark Everett who had best's in the 400 (44.69) and 800 (1:42.20) and Quantorena 400 (44.26) and 1:43.44, Dixon is young so he could go under 45 in the 400 and under 1:44.00 in the 800 this year, and maybe Challenge for the American Record after College, when he run Diamond League meets with stacked fields and pacers.

Superlative performance to be sure but I don't really consider 3000 ft to be that high--when you get to 5000-6000 ft then it becomes a significant factor. For 400 m, the altitude actually benefits performance. I don't believe that 800 m is detrimentally affected by altitude compared to a 1500 m or 5000 m run.

Kev2 wrote:

Superlative performance to be sure but I don't really consider 3000 ft to be that high--when you get to 5000-6000 ft then it becomes a significant factor. For 400 m, the altitude actually benefits performance. I don't believe that 800 m is detrimentally affected by altitude compared to a 1500 m or 5000 m run.

+1

I understand if cardiologists take special care of their patients with blocked arteries and 30kg over weight at 3200ft. Fit and elite 800m runners are not slowed down by 3200ft elevation.

SDSU Aztec wrote:

As Lee Evans proved, a 400 at altitude is actually faster than one at sea level. The 800 is close to being being neutral.

Right.

No way an 800m should be adjusted faster for altitude.

And Kip Keino ran 3:34 in Mexico City when the world record was 3:33.

I don’t think the 1500 should have an altitude adjustment.

But certainly not the 800.

Star wrote:

And Kip Keino ran 3:34 in Mexico City when the world record was 3:33.

I don’t think the 1500 should have an altitude adjustment.

But certainly not the 800.

Kipchoge Keino was from a town above 6500ft. elevation. Keino, then a smaller man. One man ran a great 1500m race at 7500ft. Everyone else in 1968 men 1500m final was affected by altitude including Ben Jipcho. Call up James Ryun and Martin Liquori. Ask them if 7500ft. affects 1500m runners.

Star wrote:

And Kip Keino ran 3:34 in Mexico City when the world record was 3:33.

I don’t think the 1500 should have an altitude adjustment.

But certainly not the 800.

Not to mention that Ralph Doubell equalled Snell's WR in the same Games (presumably at the same altitude, lol). Snell, if he hadn't retired, would probably have ran 1:43 in Mexico.

A lot of non-Kenyan talent rising at 800m now.

For every Kenyan 800m runner that gets busted, a talent emerges from the USA or GB to take his place.

On that note, George Mills the European u18 champion, who has been out more or less for two years since winning that title, won again today. Looks like he could be in the mix this summer for GB selection. And who knows what Max Burgin will do this year? And I'm still picking Kyle Langford for Doha and Tokyo gold.

Strong contender for coolest thing to happen in Lubbock.

Because Lubbock sucks.

Coevett wrote:

Star wrote:

And Kip Keino ran 3:34 in Mexico City when the world record was 3:33.

I don’t think the 1500 should have an altitude adjustment.

But certainly not the 800.

Not to mention that Ralph Doubell equalled Snell's WR in the same Games (presumably at the same altitude, lol). Snell, if he hadn't retired, would probably have ran 1:43 in Mexico.

That ran/run thing is quite the challenge for you.

Have you ever heard of Emmanuel Korir???

Coevett wrote:

A lot of non-Kenyan talent rising at 800m now.

For every Kenyan 800m runner that gets busted, a talent emerges from the USA or GB to take his place.

On that note, George Mills the European u18 champion, who has been out more or less for two years since winning that title, won again today. Looks like he could be in the mix this summer for GB selection. And who knows what Max Burgin will do this year? And I'm still picking Kyle Langford for Doha and Tokyo gold.

You are SO boring.

There are so many countries aside from the USA and UK.