Are you upset by this Gillette ad? Is it an attack on men?

another ad idea wrote:

So when will the #MeToo movement get around to addressing the massive number of black men who impregnate women and then refuse to act as fathers? What company is going to release that ad, and will the liberal response be equally positive?

Just because most Metoo 'targets' are white men doesn't mean you should feel personally attacked and get all defensive and deflect attention toward a group that makes you feel insecure about your masculinity. You haven't done anything to be ashamed of, have you?

The fixation on black men is very telling (didn't Freud or something talk about this) and also means you aren't worth trying to convince. So I have no issues insulting.

Poster #917 wrote:

GoatZenHeimer wrote:

The line in the ad, "some is not enough..." implies that the problem lies with "most" men. How is that a call for common decency? It's stereotyping. "Kettle, you're black."

I just can't wait for the Vagicil or Kotex ad showing a woman drowning her newborn in the sink, female highschool teacher sleeping with a male student, and a young hot chick marrying a fat rich slob with a feminine voiceover saying "some is not enough" and "we can do better".

Then we can watch all the women come out and say - "hey, what's so wrong with asking women to be good people?"

Only left out the part of the commercial where we see 12 year old girls being viciously catty behind the back of one of their classmates while their moms chant "girls will be girls" monotonously.

mansplaining wrote:

The irony is that this ad is the epitome of “mansplaining.” Basically they are presenting the message of “don’t be a sexual predator” as if it is some kind of revelation that we are too simple minded to grasp unless they walk us through it nice and slowly.

Recipe for simplemindedness: A few beers, 1-2 goading peers and a vulnerable woman

Wow! So that explains all of those black people I've been hearing about in high-ranking positions in boardrooms across the country! Thanks for clearing that up!

Gillette is not running the ad in Saudi so as not to alienate that patriarchal market.

We need to export more of our soy to the Middle East.

Noah_white4 wrote:

yea, men need to be nice and respect women. I have never done most of the things portrayed in the ad, so id like it if everybody quit tagging all men with "toxic masculinity"

The one thing I completely disagree on is the 2 young boys wrestling in the yard being broken up. young boys like to wrestle outside and there is absolutely nothing wrong with that. "boys will be boys" is actually the exact explaination as to why they were wrestling in the back yard, let it happen cause it's not hurting anything and its always been done. Girls and boys are different everybody, and that's never gonna change.

Have you ever stopping someone from catcalling a women or talking down to them in a professional setting?

If it's so clear these behaviors are wrong and most people would never do them, why don't we stand up more to put a stop to them?

The ad makes a lot of sense in that context.

Aren't these SJWs always complaining about stereotyping? And guess what they did in this ad....

I don't live in a lower-class neighborhood or ghetto so I've never seen a man catcalling a woman.

YMMV wrote:

Gillette is not running the ad in Saudi so as not to alienate that patriarchal market.

We need to export more of our soy to the Middle East.

You go first. Be an example. They will follow you preacher.

answering for him wrote:

I don't live in a lower-class neighborhood or ghetto so I've never seen a man catcalling a woman.

People are so adamant that they have never encountered aggression or condescension towards women. Considering how often women from all social strata report such behaviors -- I think the problem is with (willful?) ignorance.

Slow your roll wrote:

Harambe wrote:

I agree with everything you said. I was mainly trolling the neanderthals in this forum who would actually be offended by calls for common decency.

So, when you (Gillette, in this case) are trying to convince someone that your point is correct, the best way to go about it is not to insult the person you are trying to convince.

Gillette purposely made white men out to be neanderthals.

Judging from many of the responses on this thread, many of them are starting with the duffer in the Oval Office. Last I checked, he's neither Muslim nor black

Harambe wrote:

answering for him wrote:

I don't live in a lower-class neighborhood or ghetto so I've never seen a man catcalling a woman.

People are so adamant that they have never encountered aggression or condescension towards women. Considering how often women from all social strata report such behaviors -- I think the problem is with (willful?) ignorance.

I believe women have been catcalled, but primarily in ghettos, construction zones, and places with lots of drunk people. I have never witnessed any catcalling to intervene with because I don't hang out in those places.

answering for him wrote:

I believe women have been catcalled, but primarily in ghettos, construction zones, and places with lots of drunk people. I have never witnessed any catcalling to intervene with because I don't hang out in those places.

Thanks for proving my point for me

Harambe wrote:

answering for him wrote:

I don't live in a lower-class neighborhood or ghetto so I've never seen a man catcalling a woman.

People are so adamant that they have never encountered aggression or condescension towards women. Considering how often women from all social strata report such behaviors -- I think the problem is with (willful?) ignorance.

Guess what? Everyone, both male and female are aggressive/condescending towards both males and females. In my personal experience, women are more condescending/aggressive towards other women than men are to women. This is called life, get used to it.

Don't care at at wrote:

All.

This ^

Seriously, WTF is wrong with people nowadays to be getting upset about an ad? Who gives a sh!t?

Well someone made a calculation that this ad would attract more customers than it would turn off.

Nothing particularly bothersome about it other than if we need a razor company to tell us how to act, then we are worse off than I thought.

Harambe wrote:

answering for him wrote:

I believe women have been catcalled, but primarily in ghettos, construction zones, and places with lots of drunk people. I have never witnessed any catcalling to intervene with because I don't hang out in those places.

Thanks for proving my point for me

I didn't disagree with your point. You're right, I've never prevented someone from catcalling. This is because I've never witnessed catcalling since it is not prevalent in most communities.

Guess what dick head wrote:

Harambe wrote:

People are so adamant that they have never encountered aggression or condescension towards women. Considering how often women from all social strata report such behaviors -- I think the problem is with (willful?) ignorance.

Guess what? Everyone, both male and female are aggressive/condescending towards both males and females. In my personal experience, women are more condescending/aggressive towards other women than men are to women. This is called life, get used to it.

If you really think women don't experience more social/professional intimidation/condescension/aggression because of their gender then you should have no problem calling it out the rare times it does happen? Good -- that's the point of the ad.

Glad we agree.