2019 College Track & Field Open Coaching Positions Discussion

Erik Jenkins is very well respected within our profession and its a great hire for USF.

All Mine wrote:

https://web2.ustfccca.org/assistant-track-field-xc-coach-seton-hill-university/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+USTFCCCAJobOpenings+%28USTFCCCA+Job+Openings%29

Looking for female candidates.

i said it wrote:

D3tryhard wrote:

It's true that women are a priority nowadays in the coaching world. But in her defense, she had the experience to back it up. Plus its Chattman it's a revolving door... she's going to get the head experience she needs and leave in a couple of years.

My assumption in seeing this was that she must be a below average coach and suck at interviewing if this is all that she could get with a couple years experience. Typically a woman of her experience would already be making $75k as a stopwatch holder at a Power 5 school.

Schools like this do not care about the sport. Just looking to fill the spot. That's why it's a revolving door with no resources.

Milt to UNC confirmed.

i see that roll wrote:

UNC dude wrote:

I wouldn't say Ross is working with nothing. I suspect he working with something.

I see what you did there ^^

yeaaaahhh... def suspect

Now who goes to Stanford and just as interesting, does Andrea get to stay?

I would guess Andrea stays and Bobby leaves, it’s hard to see them keep 3 XC coaches on staff. I could be wrong and they keep both.

Will be interesting to see the dominoes fall with this move!

Who takes over at Stanford. Will the Powell’s consider after just one year at UW? Promote from current staff and go 2 coaches? Vin coming back?

The speculation for this one will be much more fun then what UNC was.

Cardinal perch wrote:

Who takes over at Stanford. Will the Powell’s consider after just one year at UW? Promote from current staff and go 2 coaches? Vin coming back?

The speculation for this one will be much more fun then what UNC was.

This job has Greg Metcalf written all over it. Perfect opportunity for Metcalf to reinvent himself.

Stanford only hires people who have WON NCAA titles.

Joe Franklin has won multiple. AND has been trying to leave the lobos since they hacked the funding to the program.

Franklin DROOLING over stanford...

What I think is more interesting is what happens to the assistant coaches at Stanford and UNC. Milt really likes his Stanford staff, and I can't imagine him not bringing all of them to UNC. So that leaves all of the UNC assistants out of a job. Tough business, but that is the nature of the beast.

And I believe there are quite a few top distance coaches who will go after Stanford. And I'm not speaking about assistant distance coaches who have no chance. I could see 2-3 of the top 15 national teams in cc go hard after the job. And I believe it will be a surprize when they name someone.

Hopefully he brings Curtiss Long with him or USF will be looking for a new head coach in 4 years.

re: women getting into coaching

Here's the thing, y'all. Perhaps it IS easier for women to get interviews and maybe even get hired into entry-level/assistant positions. Fine. But the problem is that it is hard to KEEP women in coaching. There are so many reasons for this.

1. Double standards (Too nice and you're a pushover, too direct and you're a b*tch; too young and you're not qualified, too old and you're out of touch; too masculine and you're a lesbian/aggressive/bossy, too feminine and you won't be taken seriously/relegated to team mom/etc)

2. No "old boys network" for women (see: Letsrun, USTFCCCA convention speakers, etc)

3. S.A. preference for male coaches (society has taught us this)

4. Family/better pay elsewhere/kids/spouse's job

In regards to females getting head coaching jobs:

When admins say, "I want to hire the best," this automatically privileges male candidates. Why?

1. Men already hold 82% of WOMEN's XC/TF team head coaching jobs (

https://www.cehd.umn.edu/tuckercenter/research/womencoaches.html

). So there are already more "qualified" men who have held similar positions already out there.

2. When we think of characteristics of a "good coach", we tend to think of stereotypically masculine words (strong, tough, smart, leadership, etc). When we see these characteristics in women, we have a few less-complimentary words (b*tch, butch, bossy, mean, screamer, etc). Also - if we see a woman who is more feminine, we doubt her competency because we have so few models of successful female coaches. It's such a tightrope we women walk on.

If you don't believe in affirmative action, then I see why you might be against giving "less qualified" women a chance. However, at some point, someone's gotta take a chance on these ladies and give them the leadership roles that they CAN thrive in if they feel supported, if they have the autonomy they need, and if they are treated as if they are competent.

Thank you for coming to my TEDtalk. Credit to the Tucker Center for a lot of this ish. They're great.

Here’s a long shot: former Stanford women’s distance coach Dena Evans.

Female. Minority. Stanford alum. Still lives in the area.

Champs only wrote:

Stanford only hires people who have WON NCAA titles.

Joe Franklin has won multiple. AND has been trying to leave the lobos since they hacked the funding to the program.

Franklin DROOLING over stanford...

Yeah I hear he's been messaging several people over Facebook about it

woem me down wrote:

Here’s a long shot: former Stanford women’s distance coach Dena Evans.

Female. Minority. Stanford alum. Still lives in the area.

Why in the world would Dena Evans want all of the headaches that go along with this job? She already had the Stanford women's job years ago, and she left it for a better life. No way she would come back.