Farah wants to go out in 62 flat, Rupp says it's ok with him!! Wtf??

Bootsontheground wrote:

You would think with the forecasted weather they should be more cautious. If they go out in 62 they might not get the European/American records due to a blow up. A 62:30/45 followed by a negative split seems wiser to me.. I think Farah overestimates his capabilities and he's a bit dumb if he goes out that fast in mid-60's with high humidity.

dude.... 62:30/45 is crazy!! he will blow up... should be more like 62:33/48. that just common sense.

sp3 wrote:

sp2 wrote:

Gosh, he went out a whole lot *faster* than that in London, and it was *hotter* than it's gonna be tomorrow.

He still ran 2:06.

Huh? He went out a whole lot faster in London? What, did he go out in 59 minutes??

It was 50% humidity in London. Will be 90% on Sunday. Big difference!

Not sure you know how to calculate relative humidity, or that dew point is the more important element. The dew point is constant at 58, the temp at 8:00 is 61 => 90% RH; by 10 the temp is 63, and the RH is 84%. If the temperature was 68 (like in London?) the RH would be about 70%. And, was London completely cloudy? Also, the sun angle 2 weeks after the Fall Equinox is lower compared to being close to a month after the Spring Equinox. That means that in London the sun had been up for quite a while in Chicago it rises at 7:00. And, oh yes, there will be scattered rain with more rain before the race so that the ground will be damp if not wet, so the ground is not going to heat up.

I'm excited. Watched the video on the of this interview and it really feels like Rupp thinks he can go 204 or better. He wants it to be fast and said between 62 and 63 AND that he doesn't want to let a pack go then hope they blow up.

Expect Great Things.

silly plan wrote:

Most anyone can run the 1st 400 of a marathon 62 flat. I would not advise it, but there is plenty of time to recover.

Lol

ff wrote:

Alternate Reality wrote:

Not the same....

Rupp is not "native American" because that term has been co-opted by a certain cultural group.

He is, however, native-born American.

Mo is not a native-born Euro.

Mo is nothing Euro other than that somehow he crawled into the continent and they haven't removed him yet.

woof

LRCRacismSexismWatchDog wrote:

ff wrote:

I'm really excited about this marathon and can't wait to watch it. But really, these threads turn so stupid it drives me crazy. Why all these distractions from the race? Are you people actually runners? There are plenty of stupid discussions on other websites.

Mo is nothing Euro other than that somehow he crawled into the continent and they haven't removed him yet.

woof

runnerdave wrote:

LRCRacismSexismWatchDog wrote:

woof

I'm really excited about this marathon and can't wait to watch it. But really, these threads turn so stupid it drives me crazy. Why all these distractions from the race? Are you people actually runners? There are plenty of stupid discussions on other websites.

A little bit of weather knowledge can be dangerous wrote:

Not sure you know how to calculate relative humidity, or that dew point is the more important element. The dew point is constant at 58, the temp at 8:00 is 61 => 90% RH; by 10 the temp is 63, and the RH is 84%. If the temperature was 68 (like in London?) the RH would be about 70%. And, was London completely cloudy? Also, the sun angle 2 weeks after the Fall Equinox is lower compared to being close to a month after the Spring Equinox. That means that in London the sun had been up for quite a while in Chicago it rises at 7:00. And, oh yes, there will be scattered rain with more rain before the race so that the ground will be damp if not wet, so the ground is not going to heat up.

Surprised no one else besides the poster above has mentioned that relative humidity is not nearly as good a gauge of humidity's effects on the human body as dew point is. RH is very misleading the lower the temperature gets. While the relative humidity for race time is forecast at about 90%, which sounds bad, the more important data point is dew point during race time is forecast to be just 59F.

Anything under a dew point of 60F is when things start to feel fairly dry to most people, regardless of temperature. When you combine that with a forecasted temperature of low 60s, that's not bad at all. Not nearly so bad, anyway, as people having been making out. I believe the Brojos may have focused on the high RH in their pre-race report as well — amazing they aren't better informed about dew point vs. RH, as so-called experts.

runnerdave wrote:

runnerdave wrote:

I'm really excited about this marathon and can't wait to watch it. But really, these threads turn so stupid it drives me crazy. Why all these distractions from the race? Are you people actually runners? There are plenty of stupid discussions on other websites.

They're just jealous that Mo is a legitimate Brit. He fled from Somalia when he was a little kid. He has a British accent for goodness sake. Alberto Salazar fled from Cuba too as a kid, does this mean Alberto Salazar isn't a true American because he wasn't born here?

It might be 62 pace at 10k but by the half will most likely be 63 something.

The winner will run 2:07. Which considerin the less than ideal conditions it will be worth a 2:05.

The winner? Well the only marathoner I would bet on is Kipchoge. Really it’s whonever is feelin it

Rabbi Shlomo @1488 wrote:

...the European/American records..

Since when is Somalia part of Europe?

The SJW soyboys are idiots.

silly plan wrote:

Most anyone can run the 1st 400 of a marathon 62 flat. I would not advise it, but there is plenty of time to recover.

It was proven by consensus that the average person can run about a 2-minute 400, and fewer than 1% are trainable to sub 60. Not all that many could start in a 62.0.

of course Rupp and Farah could, and it would be an interesting tactic. It wouldn't kill them, they could just ease off down to their marathon pace, and it might provide an extra fast warm up and be an advantage! I'd like to see someone try. But only 800m+ GOAT Choge would have the balls.

Farah is a British citizen, as you should know. But all you got is White Power Ad hominems.

sp3 wrote:

sp2 wrote:

Gosh, he went out a whole lot *faster* than that in London, and it was *hotter* than it's gonna be tomorrow.

He still ran 2:06.

Huh? He went out a whole lot faster in London? What, did he go out in 59 minutes??

It was 50% humidity in London. Will be 90% on Sunday. Big difference!

I'll speak slowly, Einstein. 61 flat is *much* faster than 62-flat. You can grasp that, cant you?

London was hi-60s, cracking into 70s for last half of the race, with *bright* sunshine throughout. It was hot.

Sunday looks like it should be right around 60, no sun, very humid, yes, but also some light rain to cool them down. Dew-point in hi-50s.

If they get some light showers, but avoid any heavy stuff, or heavy wind, Chicago will be easier weather than London was.

Again, I'll keep it to small words. Farah ran 2:06:20 off a crazy 61-flat, in rough conditions, with multiple screw-ups/slowdowns at drink-stations.

Obviously (well, maybe not to you), he can run a whole lot faster with even splits, without the screw-ups, in easier weather --assuming comparable fitness and effort.

His London effort, with those adjustments, was probably good for 2:05-flat, and maybe even closer to 2:04.

It very reasonable to think he's capable of that, and might be shooting for that here.

Therefore, planning to go out in 62 is not at all unreasonable.

Is any of that over your head?

sp3 wrote:

sp2 wrote:

Gosh, he went out a whole lot *faster* than that in London, and it was *hotter* than it's gonna be tomorrow.

He still ran 2:06.

Huh? He went out a whole lot faster in London? What, did he go out in 59 minutes??

It was 50% humidity in London. Will be 90% on Sunday. Big difference!

It’s *relative* humidity, moran.

Little known Kenyan ftw...

Kcjcjcupc wrote:

It might be 62 pace at 10k but by the half will most likely be 63 something.

The winner will run 2:07. Which considerin the less than ideal conditions it will be worth a 2:05.

The winner? Well the only marathoner I would bet on is Kipchoge. Really it’s whonever is feelin it

With the depth involved, I am excited for three under 2.05.10

Kcjcjcupc wrote

The winner? Well the only marathoner I would bet on is Kipchoge. Really it’s whonever is feelin it

Ill take that bet. If anyone besides kipchoge wins on Sunday, i win.

Sand Dunes wrote:

runnerdave wrote:

I'm really excited about this marathon and can't wait to watch it. But really, these threads turn so stupid it drives me crazy. Why all these distractions from the race? Are you people actually runners? There are plenty of stupid discussions on other websites.

They're just jealous that Mo is a legitimate Brit. He fled from Somalia when he was a little kid. He has a British accent for goodness sake. Alberto Salazar fled from Cuba too as a kid, does this mean Alberto Salazar isn't a true American because he wasn't born here?

^ This 100%.

Was about to post near enough the same thing til I read this. Mo's entire running career is based on British foundations. He's no Lagat, he's no Chelimo, he grew up British and we all watched him grow up and rise through the ranks here. That's why there was that incredible connection with the fans when he cemented the double London Olympic Games and became a hero to our nation.

You can write all the racist crap you like about Sir Mo but we Brit fans just laugh in your face because we know it's nothing more than a "flag of convenience" to excuse the inadequate performances of your very own home-grown "stars", e.g. Rupp.