Train Me

I've followed this from the start and wish her luck. Your posts have inspired me--I'm shooting for my first 'thon this fall and started running again in 2017 after a 16-year hiatus (senior year, 2001).

A few questions and points for her to consider:

1) Does the school she want to go to have the major she want? Is the major a solid one that has earning potential and not like journalism? (That was my mistake).

2) Running will be great no matter what--if she makes it she's set scholarship-wise, but if she doesn't she can still run with clubs or local groups as well.

3) Tell her to be open to schools she might not have considered at the start!

18:56? That's college-level running. I think she could hit sub-19 when it cools off based on all data written here.

Nonsense` wrote:

look to the future wrote:

yes, she can run in college for fun. nobody said, nor implied, otherwise. what WAS siad is if she has no future in the sport, beyond running for fun, don't choose a college based on that. that's not trolling - that's downright good advice right there.

You're an idiot. She has plenty of future in the sport. Go away.

First, congratulations to the OP for not only your dedication to improving yourself and being a great role model for your girls, but also for being so supportive of their lives. You sound like a really good mom, and I hope you take a moment every now and then to take pride in that.

Second, as it relates to your 17yo’s college choices, I can provide a bit of an anecdote. Your daughter will not make a living as a professional runner, and that is “look to the future”’s point.

I am married to an ex-professional athlete. When she was deciding between colleges, she chose to attend a more successful athletic school, and academically good school, instead of an Ivy League school, which also had a competitive D1 athletic program in her sport. We are in our 40’s now, and every now and then she brings up the fact that she wishes she had attended the better academic school. While she did make a living as an athlete, you can only be an athlete for so long, and hopefully your daughter takes a longer view on which school is the best fit academically, financially, socially and athletically. And any other criteria she deems important.

Just my two cents; kids can be very singularly focused, and hopefully you can help her see more broadly. Good luck!

Mom of the year wrote:

Your daughter will not make a living as a professional runner, and that is “look to the future”’s point.

You've made your stupid point, which has nothing to do with this thread,

because no one ever said she''s going to pick a college to be a professional runner.

Now go and troll some other thread.

Go away you idiot. wrote:

You've made your stupid point, which has nothing to do with this thread,

because no one ever said she''s going to pick a college to be a professional runner.

Now go and troll some other thread.

It actually has quite a lot to do with the question that the OP asked. And, I’m neither a troll nor the other poster. I’m also not entirely certain why you have such vitriol about this topic - the OP asked for opinions about her daughter’s college choice, which people are giving.

Simply put, unless her daughter can be a pro runner, then I believe that sports should be a distant consideration behind the quality of academics and, in her case, potentially financial aid considerations. Based on her post, it’s implied that the D2/D3 running school would have worse academics than the D1 school. I think it’s incredibly shortsighted to make running as much of a priority as academics at college, unless the sacrifice in quality education is going to be offset by future athletic opportunities.

As the NCAA says, nearly every student athlete goes pro in something other than athletics.

I haven't updated in a while because I've been so busy with kids home all day and summer. I haven't been very consistent this last month at all. I had 3 more runs where I basically ran 7:00 again but never broke into the 6s.

We had a track meet last weekend. The qualifying meet. The girls all ran slow but I assume it's because they are running over 30 mpw and not doing any speedwork. Everyone is having a down mileage week with a couple of track workouts to try and help for the large meet this weekend.

The most notable occurence was that the 17 year old had very bad thigh pain during her 3200. She said it went away after a mile but she couldn't seem to get her leg to move any faster. That night it started to ache and wouldn't go away. The next day she went out for her long run and stopped immediately. Google suggested a stress fracture (she changed intensity, mileage, and surface all at once and was wearing worn out shoes to top it off). We did hop and fulcrum test both which resulted in pain. Went to dr and she still had all the pain but scan did not show fracture. He said it may take time to show up or something. I assume this is just away to cover their behinds in case they missed something. 2 days of total rest because even walking hurt. 3rd day was better so she swam. No pain during swim but some aching that night. Next day she tried indoor cycling on very lowx resistance. Again, some light throbbing later but no immediate pain. 5th day pool workout with coach. No pain. 6th day no pain at all. 7th day forgets she is supposed to be gentle and without pain to remind her is accidentally hopping, jogging a few steps, etc. So today, 8th day we redo hop and hang test at home. No pain. She wants to go try jogging a few minutes on grass today and I'm really nervous about it!

Can anyone here tell me if they think jogging today is a good or bad idea? Everything I read seems to suggest that a failed fulcrum test is positive for stress fracture or reaction. The dr said for her to rest until the pain was gone. Then she could cross train as long as there wasn't pain. He didn't give a timeline for jogging or running but probably because no one expected for it to stop hurting so quickly.

This is at very least a close call. Let her test the waters VERY gradually. Like go out into your yard with her, and have her lightly jog-step for five steps (barefoot on good grass if possible), walk five steps, jog again, repeat for 20-30m. Stop, do hop and fulcrum test. If no pain, turn around and repeat. No more than ten minutes first day, including both walk and jog. End immediately if any pain. Next day fifteen minutes, and so on.

SlowAFRunnrMom wrote:

I haven't updated in a while because I've been so busy with kids home all day and summer. I haven't been very consistent this last month at all. I had 3 more runs where I basically ran 7:00 again but never broke into the 6s.

The summer heat affects times.

The most notable occurence was that the 17 year old had very bad thigh pain during her 3200.

Keep alternating icing and/or ice water on and off, on and off with a wash cloth with gentle exercises until the pain is gone and the injury is completely healed. Make sure her shoes are balanced, i.e. flat inside and on the bottoms. Set them on a flat surface and look at them from the back to see if they're straight (good) or leaning to one side (bad).

dunes runner wrote:

SlowAFRunnrMom wrote:

I haven't updated in a while because I've been so busy with kids home all day and summer. I haven't been very consistent this last month at all. I had 3 more runs where I basically ran 7:00 again but never broke into the 6s.

The summer heat affects times.

The most notable occurence was that the 17 year old had very bad thigh pain during her 3200.

Keep alternating icing and/or ice water on and off, on and off with a wash cloth with gentle exercises until the pain is gone and the injury is completely healed. Make sure her shoes are balanced, i.e. flat inside and on the bottoms. Set them on a flat surface and look at them from the back to see if they're straight (good) or leaning to one side (bad).

True. It has been over 90 degrees and 100% humidity every run.

Omg, this kid!

She said... I'm gonna go run over there (where I cant see) because its softer in that area.

Okay.

It's been 20 minutes... maybe shes hurt let me go check on her.

She's sprinting against her sister!

Excuse me but that's not what you were supposed to do...!

I didn't hear you tell me not to sprint.

Wut.

She jogged about a mile today. No pain.

SlowAFRunnrMom wrote:

She jogged about a mile today. No pain.

To be 17 again!

I know it seems weird but I think I PREFER the treadmill. There's no dogs chasing (or biting) me. No 40 mph winds. No dirt in my contacts. No leaving my kids to go out for a run. No boredom because I'm too scared to run with earbuds. I may never go back outside! I really love the outside but I don't live in a pretty place. There's no grass or trees here. Just dirt, blowing dirt.

deal or no deal

RE: Train Me 2/17/2019 7:26PM - in reply to SlowAFRunnrMom

I love following your posts. An inspiring thread on LRC. Training for my first 'thon and can't wait for summer to be over and cooler weather to come back.

jecht wrote:

I love following your posts. An inspiring thread on LRC. Training for my first 'thon and can't wait for summer to be over and cooler weather to come back.

Me too! I am over 100 degrees and 100% humidity already.

SlowAFRunnrMom wrote:

jecht wrote:

I love following your posts. An inspiring thread on LRC. Training for my first 'thon and can't wait for summer to be over and cooler weather to come back.

Me too! I am over 100 degrees and 100% humidity already.

Hmmm. That would put the dew point at around 100, which would far exceed all known readings.

weathervain wrote:

SlowAFRunnrMom wrote:

Me too! I am over 100 degrees and 100% humidity already.

Hmmm. That would put the dew point at around 100, which would far exceed all known readings.

So would 90 and 100. The point is, it is very hot and performance suffers. Don’t worry about the details, but it’s still very hot.

Ok, ok. 98 and 82% happy now? But the feels like is usually well over 100F. And I sweat so much I'm soaked clear through every piece of clothing.

Day 1 of track meet.

10 yo. 800m 3:07

14 yo. 3200m 13:52

16 yo. 3200m 13:14 (prior PR 13:52)